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re: Media try to use Notre Dame fire to embarrass President Trump
Posted on 4/16/19 at 8:57 am to windshieldman
Posted on 4/16/19 at 8:57 am to windshieldman
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I’m a city firefighter and I thought it was a good idea. I assumed a big city like Paris would have that ability
ETA: Once the fire got bad it would have taken several loads of water from planes. But fire was high and hard to get to. One flyover early on might would have knocked it down enough to manage it. Would have water damage but not a shite ton of structure burning down, maybe.
I think the issues were that:
-Collateral damage to nearby buildings. No way to be sure that the plane would dump 100% on the cathedral.
-It is a lot of weight to dump on a 800 year old building. It looks like a lot of the ceiling held up fairly well through the fire. Who knows if the ceiling would have held up to thousands of pounds of water suddenly hitting it.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 8:58 am
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 8:58 am to cajunangelle
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Media try to use Notre Dame fire to embarrass President Trump
When doesn't the media use every opportunity to try and embarrass Trump? That's their sole mission in life.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:00 am to BamaAtl
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accepting reality
quote:
BamaAtl
This is gold coming from you
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:02 am to GetCocky11
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It is a lot of weight to dump on a 800 year old building. It looks like a lot of the ceiling held up fairly well through the fire. Who knows if the ceiling would have held up to thousands of pounds of water suddenly hitting it.
Yea it would have been a lot of weight. I guess it’s a pick your poison. Seems water damage would be easier to fix than fire damage. I assumed they could put back any wall that fell over from water but nothing you can do once it burns. But yea, I’ve never dealt with an 800 y/o building on fire, or planes with water in them.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:03 am to BamaAtl
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He embarrassed himself without their help.
You do every time you post
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:04 am to cajunangelle
He probably saw this image,and thought like I did.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:09 am to Poohter
Not to mention his expertise is in buildings - he’s builds huge skyscrapers for God’s sake
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:10 am to BamaAtl
you admitted a long time ago you were a chick. I could care less either way.
Oh wow, you got me with the reading comprehension line. I am so scared of your insults I may be Chinese and put pee pee in your coke and vote for Trump 75 times just to get back at you.
Oh wow, you got me with the reading comprehension line. I am so scared of your insults I may be Chinese and put pee pee in your coke and vote for Trump 75 times just to get back at you.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:12 am to cajunangelle
The media tries to embarrass him all the time; the ND fire is just the current topic.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:17 am to Poohter
painting and chemicals during construction can easily cause a fire.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:18 am to Wtodd
I still think it would have helped. Dump it from a higher altitude to disperse the load a bit, you had nearly 75 acres equivalent of old timbers burning pretty much uncontrolled I fail to see how it could have hurt.
Atl knows everything,that chick is an expert epidemiologist and now is an elite architect and firefighting expert.
The Albertina Einstein of the board.
Atl knows everything,that chick is an expert epidemiologist and now is an elite architect and firefighting expert.
The Albertina Einstein of the board.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 9:22 am
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:18 am to cajunangelle
This is stupid. Aerial firefighting measures could have certainly been used, especially if authorities had determined the building was lost and redirected to preserve the surrounding structures. The media is being so goddam petty, it’s an embarrassment. They report as if their first duty, in every story, is to somehow make it about Trump.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:19 am to LSUfanNkaty
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not exactly the reaction you want from the most powerful person in the world.
Please elaborate. How in the frick is that response "not exactly the reaction you want"???
Because most of us would like the POTUS to have enough fricking brain cells to grasp the fact that water bombing an old structure like that could actually destroy it. Because most people with at least two brain cells to rub together understand that's a stupid fricking idea.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:19 am to cajunangelle
Well it was an ignorant think to say 
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:21 am to xiv
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Well it was an ignorant think to say
And how do you know? Because one trump hater firefighter got on CNN and said at the moment they were talking about it, that it wasn't a good idea?
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:22 am to cajunangelle
To be honest that was embarrassing - I am not a firefighter, nor am I a POTUS - but I immediately groaned when I saw this idiotic suggestion. You don't even think of dumping tons of water on a burning building you are trying to save - even IF you could be certain you wouldn't hit other buildings or people fighting the fire.
I could not believe it was real - thought it must be a spoof.
His intentions were right - but his solution was stupid.
I could not believe it was real - thought it must be a spoof.
His intentions were right - but his solution was stupid.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:23 am to BamaGradinTn
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Because most of us would like the POTUS to have enough fricking brain cells to grasp the fact that water bombing an old structure like that could actually destroy it. Because most people with at least two brain cells to rub together understand that's a stupid fricking idea.
It was being destroyed anyway, but I guess you lacked the brain cell rubbing ability to know that.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:23 am to km
Quick. Don’t look here. Look over there.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:24 am to BamaGradinTn
There’s nothing stupid about it. They could have used aircraft in a number of ways; flame retardant chemical drops, targeted bucket dumps, or straight up water bombing to save the whole city from burning, etc...
Stop pretending to be an expert on this because ABC news had a firefighter on to bash Trump.
Stop pretending to be an expert on this because ABC news had a firefighter on to bash Trump.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:24 am to cajunangelle
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And how do you know? Because one trump hater firefighter got on CNN and said at the moment they were talking about it, that it wasn't a good idea?
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