Started By
Message

re: Martha MacCallum (pissed-off) about Public School Teacher Shortage

Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:21 am to
Posted by Peter Venkman
Jackson, TN
Member since Aug 2016
2611 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:21 am to
My grandfather is a retired MPS principal and told me that they are so desperate that they are trying to talk retired teachers into coming back. They were told that this would not affect their retirement and that they’d earn their salary plus retirement. He also told me a few weeks ago that MPS as a whole was down almost 1900 teachers.

He is 84 and was asked to consider coming back and told them that wild horses couldn’t pull him away from the golf course.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
54026 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Maybe the schools should try to micromanage their teachers less. Let them teach and have their backs.


That combined with the kids can get away with anything and they know it. Schools do not get paid for kids not attending so they don’t suspend or expel them like they should. Things we used to be suspended over is a warning now.

My aunt is a teacher In the Houston area and the kids don’t show up to school and she gets bitched at for them not taking in the material and doing poorly on placement exams. She will tell the principal “they’re not here to learn!!!”

The principal will tell her that she’s not trying hard enough to reach them. I couldn’t do it.


I know a bus driver that wrote a kid up 13 times and he’s never been suspended from the bus or anything. Same woman was physically attacked by a student and he was suspended and came right back.

This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 11:24 am
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13148 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:22 am to
quote:

They need to lower the standards to increase the pool of applicants. Maybe get rid of this requirement for literacy.



Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:24 am to
quote:

There's your problem right there. Amazing how many people embrace complacency


I'm mocking her for hers...

Pointing out a problem is entirely different than being part of a solution.

We already know the problem of inner city schools.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104043 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:25 am to
shite like that is why I never went down the route of teaching.

I could teach history like anything if I wanted to but my willingness to manage unruly little shits and their parents would have seen me get fired in short order.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:26 am to
The teachers are giving out the test questions and answers prior to the tests..
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:27 am to
quote:

if I wanted to but my willingness to manage unruly little shits and their parents would have seen me get fired in short order


Don't get cancelled
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
54026 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:27 am to
I mean, if it’s a private school, I can see how it would be nice. But public schools, especially in urban areas…. I’d have lost my shite before I could ever get established.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7850 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:28 am to
EBR parish schools is advertising today on the LED billboard that they are looking to hire teachers. Billboard is located at Airline and Old Hammond Hwy.
EBR parish schools has generational problems that seem that they cannot escape from. Most of their teachers come from Southern University in Scotlandville.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Standardized testing has fricked up the education system.
Nothing wrong with standardized testing as long as the standards are sufficiently high and don't coddle an entire culture that wants every handed to them on a silver platter.


Posted by doverstutts
Member since Jul 2017
1070 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:38 am to
need mo'culcha' in teaching
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:43 am to
You don’t know what you are talking about or work in a backwoods district. New teachers in Georgia get observed 6 times a year “officially” but more unofficially, required to submit lesson plans weekly, and follow state standards. If you are a math or reading teacher, tons of pressure is added to improve and analyze assessment data.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2560 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:44 am to
The public school teacher vacancies, and the flight to private schools are both indicators of the same core problem…public schools filled with feral sociopaths who cannot behave in a civil manner, much less be taught.

This slow separation of the civilized from the ferals is occurring in many areas of society. Schools are but one. St George ring a bell?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104043 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:45 am to
This is why I didn’t go into the field well over 20 years ago. I found a different one which had a lot less contact with the public.
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3246 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Nothing wrong with standardized testing as long as the standards are sufficiently high and don't coddle an entire culture that wants every handed to them on a silver platter.


...and the testing results aren't tied to funding. When we give the schools every reason to push kids through the system, regardless of their performance, we shouldn't be surprised at the results. As always, gov't is the problem, not the solution.
Posted by JerseyTiger07
Member since Jan 2015
388 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:54 am to
The guy i shared an office with for past 9 yrs just retired. He told me the same thing 2 weeks ago.

Its really not hard to figure out. Seems like schools everywhere are allowing students to dictate how the school is run. My school literally has a "student voice" club. I literally tell my students, i dont want to hear their opinions unless asked. Im the adult, they are the student. If they want a friend in their teacher, they are in the wrong spot. Its not that hard.

They (the academics) just can't admit that their views are not attractive to a lot of people in the profession.
Posted by riverparish
Member since Dec 2007
1602 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

lost the support of administration in dealing with problem kids.


I’d imagine one of the biggest problems with teachers is dealing with the “my child never does anything wrong” parents.
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3246 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

I’d imagine one of the biggest problems with teachers is dealing with the “my child never does anything wrong” parents.


I suspect that an even bigger problem is the "I don't care how my kids behave. They are your problem while they are at school" parents.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 12:44 pm to
A revealing video about [college] standardized testing: Our Rulers Want Us Ignorant

"The College Board ain’t telling why it’s hiding the ball, but there are two possible reasons. One is that it wants to spare the feelings of “people of color.” It doesn’t want to trumpet the fact that if a passing score is three, 70 percent of blacks and 58 percent of Hispanics fail – and they’re less likely than whites and Asians even to take the tests. The truth is just too awful. But the College Board could have a different reason. A lot of colleges now make standardized tests optional for applicants, and the main reason is that favored minorities don’t score well. These days, rather than recognizing the obvious – not all groups achieve at the same level – the fashion is to claim that the tests are biased. The College Board needs to sell tests to stay in business, so maybe it thinks it can keep sales up if it hides facts."
Posted by BamaMamaof2
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
2669 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

You don’t know what you are talking about or work in a backwoods district. New teachers in Georgia get observed 6 times a year “officially” but more unofficially, required to submit lesson plans weekly, and follow state standards. If you are a math or reading teacher, tons of pressure is added to improve and analyze assessment data.



Thank you for saying this. I observe my teachers many times a year, whether they are new or veteran teachers.

Honestly, there are admins that will do the minimum amount of work they have to do, this is the same in many working environments. You have bosses that just don't give a shite and others that work hard to make their staff the best it can be.

I will say that lesson plans are a joke now. The county provides basically everything needed to compose a plan in 10-15 minutes. It is literally an online app where teachers just link and click.

There is also way too much paperwork teachers have to complete during the course of the teaching day. I wish they had more time on instruction and less on all this meaningless paperwork. This is all thanks the BOE in DC.
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 5Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram