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re: Marine One came within 0.8 miles laterally & 700ft vertically of a passenger jet

Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5933 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:06 pm to
That ain't nothin......Joe Biden was playing D.E.I. and fast tracking a female Captain helicopter pilot with barely enough flying time that ended in disaster. She was piloting an Apache Black Hawk helicopter on a certification training mission along the Potomac River near Washington,D.C., got testy with her male military instructor and flew that Apache right into incoming American Airline Flight 5342. She killed herself, two others in the copter, and 64 people in the passenger jet, including our top figure skaters and their parents returning from competition.

This report of this Marine One incident is just another attempt by the MSM to discredit President Trump.

They're relentless in their hatred for him.





This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 7:12 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47363 posts
Posted on 8/8/26 at 10:07 pm to
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Yes, they are.
Funny how you still refuse to justify your positions. I explained exactly why they aren't parallel, and your only response was "nuh uh" followed by name calling and a call for me to stop mentioning Einstein. You don't support your assertions, which is exactly what you accuse me of when you use the word "baseless" so often. You need to start justifying what you are claiming to be true, and if you disagree with me, explain why.

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Whatever man, that’s “just a theory”. You hate scientific theories and pretend they aren’t an explanation of observable, testifiable, and falsifiable facts conclusively to the overwhelming preponderance of evidence of the truths of our natural universe. Regardless, you are an asshat to even raise the issue of Einstein in regard to what is “fast”. Einstein’s equations don’t and can’t set an objective definition for “fast”. What you claimed to be “fast” is merely your irrational and arbitrary opinion by your own logical standard. Own up to it.
More deflection. Instead of addressing what I said, you respond by mocking me and accusing me of hating science.

You didn't refute what I said. You only claimed that I'm wrong. Try again. You hold no weight and credibility to merely assert me being wrong after your continual demand that I was wrong about the early Christian view of Jesus coming from the literal sperm of David only to finally realize you misunderstood the only source you could find on the topic. You need to show your work. At least I'm attempting to support my statements with particulars.

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Moral relativism, on the other hand, denies there's any invariant standard behind the variation moral preferences.
More lies or stupidity on your part.
Prove it. I've gone into great detail to explain myself. You just keep responding with "lies" and "stupidity" without showing your work. Don't be lazy.

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You obtuse piece of shite. You think Usain Bolt and some kid on a football team have a standard for “fast” that is invariant? You know you are full of shite and are a troll.
Again you show that you don't understand what is being said.

Usain Bolt and Jonny Football are both measured by the same scale, whether someone has access to that or not. Our perception of what is "fast" may be variable by comparison to other objects, but not according to the objective and invariable standard we use for measurement. If you watch a football player run, he may be "fast" in comparison to other players around him, but when you watch Usain Bolt run, you know he's much faster than the football player.

However, the perception of speed is one thing, but you can actually time them both according to one standard and see which one is faster than the other, and you can use that data to compare to other observed data to show whether or not either of them are actually "fast" in an objective sense. Usain is objectively "fast" by comparing his actual speed to the measurements of other human runners. You can compare him to the measured speed of a bullet and say he's "slow" by comparison. The bullet is also "slow" compared to the fastest measured/stated speed, which is the speed of light, which is where we get to Einstein.

Speeds may be comparative, and we may use "fast" and "slow" subjectively to describe relative speeds of objects (a person vs. a bullet), but all of that can be measured according to a singular, objective standard that doesn't change (in a vacuum) across observers: the speed of light.

Morality, on the other hand, has no "speed of light" constant to measure by in your worldview of moral subjectivity. There is no singular moral speedometer to use to compare the moral "speeds" of Hitler and Gandhi to in order to say one is "faster" (better) than the other.

So again, it's apples and oranges. I hope you get it now.
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1. I'm not a hypocrite
False.
Prove it. Don't just assert it. You've got a habit of not supporting your statements.

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Jesus is a fictional character.
keep saying that. It doesn't help your credibility.
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 12:06 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57332 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:28 am to
0.8 miles laterally and 700ft vertically is a long way in aviation. The normal minimum vertical separation of flight paths is 500 feet. I’m sure they want to keep the president farther than that, and a mistake is still a mistake, but that wasn’t a near miss.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13188 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:34 am to
Reagan International is a shite show and everyone knows it…
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10364 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:09 am to
Separation violation involving POTUS. Presidential movement has priority handling over a commercial flight and I don't understand how that could happen. Definately sounds like a contoller frick up.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4733 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:10 am to
This whole discussion is a big nothing Burger. Marine One pilots are the best of the best. They have been taught to fly in combat formations a hundred feet apart. 700 ft vertical and .8 miles horizontal separation is literally forever to them.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3994 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:10 am to
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FooManChoo

Retarded, lying, obtuse piece of shite who asserts objective facts from his own speculation, assumptions, imagination, and presuppositions.

By your own logic, your assertion of something being “fast” is subjective, based on your personal opinion, and “by definition” is irrational and meaningless.
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