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re: Marine Corps commanding general relieved of duty

Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by Baldy
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:29 pm to
Word so bad we cant even utter the word while discussing the word.

Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:36 pm to
So he said something like “what if I, too, said n****r like those rappers?” and got canned for it?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:45 pm to
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He was probably a pogue also.


Pog. And why does it matter what MOS someone is?

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The general is an 03 with multiple deployments over his very long and spotless career. A freaking Lance Corporal will be the catalyst that destroys his career.


He has/had the right to challenge it at court martial.

Why are you bent out of shape throwing shade at a junior enlisted warrior, even if it is ridiculous? The general will retire and still collect a pension.

I hate this shite as much as anyone, but officers and generals set these dumb policies in place, its not the lcpl underground doing it.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:46 pm to
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Some of the music incorporated the n-word, which allegedly prompted Neary to ask other marines how they would feel if he said it.




What the fricking frick?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:48 pm to
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don’t say any of them.


There are MILLIONS of those words. There is no such thing as a word on the planet that does not offend someone. Do you understand?
Posted by TiderTom
Pleasant Grove
Member since Apr 2011
458 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:49 pm to
Right on. Right on. Sorry. As long as I hear black folk throwing the word around so casually, I know it’s not the word. And honestly, in 2020, I’m not too concerned with their feelings over a word. Not my style, but I’ve been called worse so my concern over the “n” word ( I even feel silly typing that) ranks waaaaay down the list.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:49 pm to
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There are MILLIONS of those words


So don't say ANY of them!!!!!!!

I'm currently awaiting my Newspeak dictionary...
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100461 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:04 pm to
Should have said he doesn’t look down on n%##rs, kikes, wops, or greasers and that they are all equally worthless. Gotta cover your arse these days

This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 4:09 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78249 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:08 pm to
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There are MILLIONS of those words. There is no such thing as a word on the planet that does not offend someone. Do you understand?


That’s just not true.

You probably go most of your day without using any kind of slur.

Are you literally trying to say it’s impossible not to use slurs?

This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 4:16 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60705 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:08 pm to
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when he made a comment about the music a group of Marines were listening to during an outdoor training session, according to Stars and Stripes.
Polka? Bluegrass?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22636 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:12 pm to
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Some of the music incorporated the n-word, which allegedly prompted Neary to ask other marines how they would feel if he said it.


It's OK for artists to use that word for artistic purposes. It is not an offensive word in that sense. But for anyone else to use it for any other purpose even for the purpose the general was using is A-NotOK. He should have known better.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:13 pm to
I hate to see our militray becoming so weak.
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
3652 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:15 pm to
Didn’t Biden do the same years ago when he read the n-word in a quoted explanation in public? Same same.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
20956 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:31 pm to
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Well...he definitely should be relieved of command for that


Why?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:43 pm to
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Are you literally trying to say it’s impossible not to use slurs?


This isn't the issue, I'm I'm pretty sure you understand that. In addition, is it a slur if there is no intent?

We are talking simply about the word being off limits. No words should be, and yet we have a growing list of words which simply can't be uttered.

It's like saying Voldemort.

I'm not advocating using slurs. The irony is I couldn't be a nicer guy and would never in a million years go out of my way to insult anyone on purpose, unless they'd earned it. I just refuse to be bullied into pretending that some words by their very existence are so dangerous that we can't see or hear them. Or worse, despite the fact that these off limit words are so dangerous, only a portion of the populace can't use them while others freely can. and worse yet, the haves and have not shift depending upon which words we're talking about. sort of an intersectionality for language usage. That's absolutely insane to me, and you've yet to make a counter argument. All you've done is suggest we ought not use them.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22636 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:45 pm to
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Didn’t Biden do the same years ago when he read the n-word in a quoted explanation in public? Same same.


Biden can do anything. He walks on water.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125448 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:46 pm to
Jesus Christ.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27966 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:50 pm to
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Well...he definitely should be relieved of command for that


What if that music had the word in the lyrics or Title? For example:

What These Bitches Want From A Nigerian?

or

Uyghurs in Paris

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78249 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 5:02 pm to
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This isn't the issue, I'm I'm pretty sure you understand that. In addition, is it a slur if there is no intent?


I agree There are situations when you shouldn’t lose you job saying it.
And this seems like one of them.

I just said it’s a good rule of thumb just not to say it. This is just practical advice.

Zach asked me which slurs he could use.

The answer is clearly don’t use slurs.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162696 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 5:03 pm to
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Marine Maj. Gen. Stephen M. Neary, shown here as a brigadier general commanding the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force in North Carolina in 2018, was relieved of command of Marine forces in Europe and Africa on Oct. 19, 2020, as an investigation continues into allegations that he used a racial slur in front of Marines. JERED T. STONE/U.S. MARINE CORPS

The incident occurred in August on the parade field outside Marine Corps Forces Europe and Africa headquarters in Boeblingen, Germany. A lance corporal who was present told Stars and Stripes that Neary used the N-word while Marines were doing physical training outdoors with loud music playing. Some of the rap music incorporated the word, which prompted Neary to ask the junior Marines how they would feel if he said it, the lance corporal said.

The Marine, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution, said Black, white and Latino Marines were jolted when the general said the word. Even if Neary was attempting to be instructive about the taboo nature of the word, it came as a shock to hear it from a white general officer, the lance corporal said.


“He lost respect right there,” the Marine said.
I don't think he should have been relieved of duty in this context. He was commenting on the N word in the music.

Now if he ordered them to turn the Nword music off---- then maybe yeah.

But he looks like he has had a long career and was pointing out the disgust of the N word in the rap music. The ones that said they were offended are
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