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re: Maricopa county ballot harvesting on camera
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:57 am to the808bass
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:57 am to the808bass
quote:Perhaps not. Please enlighten me.
There is nothing “automated” about checking signatures, comparing addresses, finding the correct precincts, etc. All of that must be done by hand, by a human being.quote:
Cool. You don’t know anything about Arizona’s process.
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:01 am to Flats
quote:
They're not taking selfies to post on Instagram saying "look, I voted".
So you're saying on election day there's not a single photo of a person dropping off their ballot on social media, or texted to relatives? Or that social media only consists of selfies? I'm not certain which claim is more asinine....
There are and always will be lots of reasons people take photos of things including but not limited to selfies.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:05 am to Stidham8
Wouldn't they have cameras from there rear too? Easy to grab license plates and question those dropping off multiple ballots, especially the one taking Pics of him putting them in...
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:17 am to i am dan
quote:It's stuff like this - along with everything BoarEd puts out - that allows for legitimate fraud allegations to be written off as right-wing, nutjob fantasy.
Seriously, politics has warped your damn brains if you see massive voter fraud in that video
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:27 am to Pecker
quote:Highlighted language is key.
It's stuff like this - along with everything BoarEd puts out - that allows for legitimate fraud allegations to be written off as right-wing, nutjob fantasy.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:28 am to oklahogjr
I watched a guy taking a video as he deposited a stack of ballots. Looks like someone ensuring he gets his money to me.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:29 am to Stidham8
quote:
Clearly no one is getting caught. Republicans need to cheat too.
What do you guys not get about harvesting ballots. To harvest something, you have to first grow it.
The democrats have been digging, planting and fertilizing their base for decades. They have worked all the angles to have the perceived numbers.
The problem starts way before the votes are counted. The last 2 democrat presidents have said, during public addresses, something to the extent of “all black people must vote for me”. They have convinced virtually everyone that this is a true statement. It’s why they shamelessly slam the racist button every time their logic hits a wall.
They have been adamant that one doesn’t need an ID, or to even register to vote in order for a vote to be cast. Add in mail in ballots, and they have as many “votes” as they need.
They always have a story about why a Republican candidate loses and even this board buys into it. PA senate a great example, Oz was a bad candidate. The MF is a doctor that doesn’t age, proven to test favorably to core democrat demographics (was on Oprah for years) and was facing a guy that is absolutely hideous, the antithesis of a far left supporter, and unable to have a real life conversation. I don’t think he would have been great at government, but he was a great candidate.
We send our kids to public schools that indoctrinate them, then finish them off by sending them to universities that do the same for prices we can’t afford.
They own the media (or the other way around) who spins and pump propaganda. We let our kids sit glued to it.
Saying the republicans just need to do what democrats do is like challenging Wal Mart to be the low price leader.
Republicans only stand a chance if they can find a way to develop a United platform, send a clear message and find the right channels to do so. They need to change perceptions to tear down this built in advantage. It’s an uphill battle, especially given the rights’ proclivity for infighting. The challenge is that by nature, people in the right are the dissidents, so they naturally don’t agree with each other.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:33 am to Hognutz
quote:As I said in yesterday's thread, the behavior CAN be explained innocuously, but it IS suspicious.
I watched a guy taking a video as he deposited a stack of ballots. Looks like someone ensuring he gets his money to me.
Someone engaged in that behavior is the FIRST person that I investigate. For the reasons I have outlined above, it seems unlikely that such an investigation would ever change the vote, but it might put a few miscreants in jail.
As an aside, serving as an illegal ballot "mule" is a Class 6 felony in Arizona. That is BARELY above a misdemeanor. The most-likely punishment is a mere fine, though jail time of a few months IS a remote possibility. Not much of a deterrent, IMO.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:33 am to Pecker
quote:
that allows for legitimate fraud allegations to be written off as right-wing, nutjob fantasy.
This is going to happen anyway.
If we had iron-clad, undeniable proof, the Democrats and Never-Trump-tards would dismiss it as such anyway.
These cucks don't need a REASON to dismiss it.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:07 am to oklahogjr
quote:
So you're saying on election day there's not a single photo of a person dropping off their ballot on social media, or texted to relatives? Or that social media only consists of selfies? I'm not certain which claim is more asinine....
Those aren't photos of a person, mensa. They're just photos of the ballots going into the box. Multiple ballots, I believe, every time someone took a picture. You can spin whatever tales you like about why people would do this, but I'm going with Occam's Razor.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:10 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Most states are simply NOT going to do that.
If my count is right almost half the US manages to run their elections without drop boxes.
https://www.usvotefoundation.org/ballot-return-options
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:21 am to Stidham8
No standing
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:26 am to Texaggie96
Stfu your lack of intelligence is showing. That, or you just playing dumb.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:34 am to moneyg
quote:
Lol
What are you lol'ing at? You think these 10 cars that probably dropped off about 50 ballots is massive?
When I picture muling? I'm picturing people dropping off hundreds of ballots.
I'd be fine with having to drop off multiple family ballots inside and explaining the situation.
If the point is to get rid of drop boxes, then I'd be okay with that. But it wouldn't do any good. They could just walk in and lie.
I'm trying to look at this from a logic standpoint and removing all my political bullshite in my head.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:39 am to Stidham8
Voting Drop Boxes are like building self serve Pharmacies in the middle of the homeless camp.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:02 pm to Texaggie96
quote:
The concern I would think should be that people who are modifying the ballots or filling the ballots out for people, but you aren't gonna catch those folks at the drop-off box.
The bigger issue is why would someone doing this ever use a drop-off box? They wouldn’t because of the risk of being caught as that only works in very large numbers. That would stand out. What would people do then? They would drop them in freaking blue USPS boxes that are literally everywhere. It’s why I don’t understand watching the drop-off boxes. If there is fraud, they will just mail the damn things.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:24 pm to the808bass
quote:
You’re literally retarded. Almost 1M people work the polls in each Presidential election.
And of those, how many actually count ballots? I'm sure they wouldn't mind sitting down and counting ballots after an 8 hour day managing the polls. Because grandma's got nothing better to do.
fricking idiot.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:31 pm to LSU2ALA
quote:The theory (as far as I understand it) is that drop boxes are used to commit fraud on election day to drop ballots at the last minute based upon last-minute polling and that they cannot use the USPS for this in states that require mailed ballots to reach the registrar before the end of Election Day.
The bigger issue is why would someone doing this ever use a drop-off box? They wouldn’t because of the risk of being caught as that only works in very large numbers. That would stand out. What would people do then? They would drop them in freaking blue USPS boxes that are literally everywhere. It’s why I don’t understand watching the drop-off boxes. If there is fraud, they will just mail the damn things.
Either that, or the fraudsters cannot afford stamps, but CAN afford to pay "mules" a fixed sum per "stuffed ballot" (which is certainly higher than the cost of that first class stamp).
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:36 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Either that, or the fraudsters cannot afford stamps
I don't think you need stamps to mail a ballot.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:41 pm to David_DJS
quote:Surprise to me, so I looked it up.
Either that, or the fraudsters cannot afford stampsquote:
I don't think you need stamps to mail a ballot.
19 states pay the postage for you. LINK
Arizona is one of those states. Pennsylvania is not.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 2:49 pm
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