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re: Manufacturing now smallest share of US Economy in 72 years--

Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:13 pm to
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IBchinamen is old school democrat.


You clearly are ignorant of history if you think a free trader is an old school democrat. Tariffs are a mainstay of democrat union policy.

It is democrats Wilbur Ross and Peter Navarro that Trump has put in charge of this folly. Makes Trumpkins proud he has democrats running his trade war.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16197 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:16 pm to
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Now I post links to these stories and get down voted because Trumpkins do not want to read the stories. They want to deny the truth.


The articles from the same media that said the economy was going to crash with a Trump election? The same media who said a recession has been imminent for two years? Those articles from that media?

Yea. No thanks.

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:16 pm to
Ok give a list of media that says what you want to hear I will try to stick to those sources.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:18 pm to
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One trick pony


It really is pathetic.

Smells very paid shillish
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:18 pm to
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Wednesday’s third-quarter GDP report is forecast to show the economy grew at the second-slowest pace of Trump’s presidency. On Friday, data may show manufacturing jobs dropped 55,000 in October from the prior month, largely reflecting the walkout of thousands of General Motors Co. employees.



Dingbat loon.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109619 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:20 pm to
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Smells very paid shillish


No way is anyone paying that big of a caustic prick to "shill" for them.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18680 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:21 pm to
Well we did make it two pages in the thread before he brought up Wilbur Ross his wicked daddy.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:22 pm to
Ohh here is Taurus---the man that imports from China and says the tariffs are working because his prices have not gone up from Chinese sources.

From the Forbes article linked above I suspect you might want to start stocking ZoomLion combine parts.

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The negative impact of trade conflicts has contributed to weak economics across the agribusiness supply chain—from soybeans to John Deere harvest combines.

China’s Zoomlion, makers of harvest combines, have seen its shares rise 73% this year in the local currency. By comparison, John Deere shares are up 10%.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 1:30 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112439 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:22 pm to
you do realize that if manufacturing were to grow at, say 5%, but the rest of the economy grows at 10%, it would still constitute a smaller share of the US economy, right?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:24 pm to
Lets see I get 100 insults for every one lame attempt to actually dispute the links I post and I am a caustic prick.

Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:25 pm to
Can we just ban this guy from the PT board already?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27476 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:27 pm to
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every fricking day with your shite.


Your one trick, and many others, is Pro-Trump all day all the time, regardless of the facts or issues. In my book, that is significantly more tiresome and lame.

I don't agree with the dude most of the time, but at least he is an actual thinker.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 1:29 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:28 pm to
For what reasons do you want me banned? Is it because I post anti trade war post and disagree with those that want big government putting tariffs on American importers and manufacturers?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26910 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:29 pm to
A Michael Bloomberg media corporation is putting out anti-Trump articles, surprising...
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:31 pm to
Do you see something in the article that is incorrect??
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:35 pm to
You guys like failed democrat Peter Navarro so much. Do you think if one of the democrats said they would pick him as VP they might convince you to vote for them?

Are your really a conservative when you defend Ross and Navarro and Trump's big government trade war??
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31994 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:35 pm to
You do realize this shite started with Bill Clinton right...?
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 1:36 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112439 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:38 pm to
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You do realize this shite started with Bill Clinton right...?


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Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3445 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:39 pm to
I B Chinamen, you are a sad strange little man.....
Posted by DeathAndTaxes
Member since Oct 2019
238 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:40 pm to
Shares of Real GDP Don't give the Real story of Manufacturing

So, there are a lot of moving parts here, but the data the BEA uses is flawed because of the method of calculating inflation adjusted contribution to GDP.

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What does all this mean for our understanding of the state of U.S. manufacturing? Adjusted for inflation, U.S. manufacturing production 6 really has grown a lot since the early 1970s, even as many industries have struggled and the sector as a whole has shed millions of jobs. That real growth has slowed since 2000, though, and as I've written before (and Baily and Bosworth discuss in their 2014 article), a lot of the manufacturing output growth since the mid-1980s, when the BEA started factoring quality improvements in computers into its measures of real output, has been driven by the rising quality of computers and electronic products, not by increases in actual, you know, output. In the meantime, U.S. economic activity has steadily shifted away from goods and toward services. In short, manufacturing isn't going away, but its share of the economy is in no meaningful sense the same now as it was in the 1960s.


Nominal overstates the decline, Real measures overstate the current situation, and it is important to note the contributions that computer and electric products contribute, though I imagine many people don't think of them when they picture "manufacturing".
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