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re: Mall of La / BR General petition for Annexation into City

Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:39 am to
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:39 am to
No kids.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134935 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:47 am to
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Honestly, I don't know who my school board member is.
That explains everything.
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Would things be better if I said nothing?
So you believe you're accomplishing change in the school system by simply posting on an anonymous message board?

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Since neither Russian, Christmas, Mickey or yourself has told anyone here where their kids go to school; why should I share personal information?
Your memory fails you again. I've posted several times where my kids went to high school. You've even commented on it. A few posts above yours I told Poodle my kids all went to public schools. ETA: In EBR.

You have dementia. No doubt about it now.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 10:55 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134935 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:50 am to
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Keep whining. It's what you do best. That and lying.



Back from Mickey Ds I see.
WTF???
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 10:57 am to
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So you believe you're accomplishing change in the school system by simply posting on an anonymous message board?


No, I realize only your posts influence people, and whatever anyone else says doesn't matter.

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Your memory fails you again. I've posted several times where my kids went to high school. You've even commented on it. A few posts above yours I told Poodle my kids all went to public schools.


First, you need to quit flattering yourself, I do not read all your posts; and second I suspected all along your kids attend EBR public schools but you haven't identified the type.

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You have dementia. No doubt about it now.


Well that settles that, go check on Kip and see if his Egg Mc Muffin was hot.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4289 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:00 pm to
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That's the best reason, but I believe Browning and the others in SG are in it for the schools and will do a better job than the people we have now. 


It is scary the way St Georgians blindly follow leaders who appointed themselves. Its like the Germans following around Hitler. Leadership tells them all the problems are caused by Baton Rouge, so they should confiscate money from those people. Then the "thugs" in their schools should be separated into a "alternative" school to reform them.

Makes me think I should just move to Pride and declare myself King of Northeast. I declare that I will change the name of the school, and your kids get into Harvard. Your life will improve tenfold with me in charge. Everyone just send me your money.

Who wants to join my kingdom, I mean community based on kids?
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63080 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:04 pm to
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It is scary the way St Georgians blindly follow leaders who appointed themselves.


Ridiculous statement.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:06 pm to
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Since neither Russian, Christmas, Mickey or yourself has told anyone here where their kids go to school; why should I share personal information?


No kids here. I personally went to both EBR public schools and also Livingston Parish public schools. Currently reside inside the city limits near the border of the unincorporated line.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:18 pm to
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No kids here. I personally went to both EBR public schools and also Livingston Parish public schools. Currently reside inside the city limits near the border of the unincorporated line.


OK< I will count you in a as city dweller, but not a magnet elite.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe you strongly oppose to SG as a city, and you seem to be "open" to a SG ISD.

Your demographics explain your position.
Thxs for sharing.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:21 pm to
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It is scary the way St Georgians blindly follow leaders who appointed themselves. Its like the Germans following around Hitler. Leadership tells them all the problems are caused by Baton Rouge, so they should confiscate money from those people. Then the "thugs" in their schools should be separated into a "alternative" school to reform them. Makes me think I should just move to Pride and declare myself King of Northeast. I declare that I will change the name of the school, and your kids get into Harvard. Your life will improve tenfold with me in charge. Everyone just send me your money. Who wants to join my kingdom, I mean community based on kids?


Call me demented, but this post is ridiculous.

First of all Browning isn't appointed to do anything. If voters elected to incorporate or if they elected to have their own ISD there would be elections.

What is more scary is that people want to keep the status quo they will make ridiculous posts like this. Heck, even Russian gave Browning his due several weeks ago.

man you must have a lot invested in EBR Schools.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
15082 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:22 pm to
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I believe you guys all have a vested interest in keeping the status quo in EBR because your kids either go to a gifted program, a magnet school, or some other public school where they get preferential treatment. If I'm wrong about that, I'm wrong, but that's the impression I get.


Yep and I am unapologetic about it. The magnet programs are the solution (well, a big part of it anyway) to fixing EBR schools.

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Where do your kids go to school?
Whole family went to public schools
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Do you go to school board meetings?
What difference have you made?


I'll answer these together.
No, I do not attend meetings. However I have only given money to two political candidates in my life. Both were EBR school board candidates (they won). They were part of the recent wave of reform candidates pushed by BRAC to kick out the old guard. I don't go to school board meetings, but I do let these members know my thoughts. I think the majority of the EBR school board are good, but the media likes to focus on the 2-3 nut jobs who didn't get kicked out. I think the current board is making progress and just needs time (and constant pressure from the right people).

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Do you think the latest round of scandals is an isolated instance or a pattern of corruption?


Honestly don't know. I lean toward a pattern of corruption among lower levels since it seems widespread, but was reported by the district.

Let me add, I am not a fan of the current superintendent. He has certain skills and ideas that are good, but overall, I think we can do better. And he is horrible with the media.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:36 pm to
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Yep and I am unapologetic about it. The magnet programs are the solution (well, a big part of it anyway) to fixing EBR schools


At least you are honest, the system works great for you and you want to keep it. I understand where you are coming from and for you it makes great sense.

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Whole family went to public schools


I went to public schools throughout, my kids too but left the system for private school.

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I'll answer these together. No, I do not attend meetings. However I have only given money to two political candidates in my life. Both were EBR school board candidates (they won). They were part of the recent wave of reform candidates pushed by BRAC to kick out the old guard. I don't go to school board meetings, but I do let these members know my thoughts. I think the majority of the EBR school board are good, but the media likes to focus on the 2-3 nut jobs who didn't get kicked out. I think the current board is making progress and just needs time (and constant pressure from the right people).


No problem, I too have donated money to candidates when I think we needed change or a guy/gal showed abilities. I can not remember donating to a school board candidate.

And the fact that you don't attend school board meetings doesn't make you any lessor of an advocate for schools. I don't think you have to qualify by going to school board meetings to have an opinion on schools.

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Honestly don't know. I lean toward a pattern of corruption among lower levels since it seems widespread, but was reported by the district. Let me add, I am not a fan of the current superintendent. He has certain skills and ideas that are good, but overall, I think we can do better. And he is horrible with the media.


we agree

And btw, Jim I certainly appreciate your posts, you debate; but you come in as a gentleman and leave the same way. Have a nice day.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4289 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:37 pm to
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What is more scary is that people want to keep the status quo they will make ridiculous posts like this. Heck, even Russian gave Browning his due several weeks ago. man you must have a lot invested in EBR Schools.


As I have said before, nothing could be closer to the truth.

I said the previous proposal had its merits. I think SEBR should have better schools.

I am against SEBR acting like a bunch of petulant children trying to take their ball and go home. I am against this movement led by the individuals who stand the most to gain. I am against the the leadership perpetuating lies and misleading their "constituents" to stir them into a rebel frenzy. These guys dont have to back up any statement or proposal or budget they make. They are snake oil salesmen thats are leading SEBR to become another Baker
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134935 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:46 pm to
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I do not read all your posts; and second I suspected all along your kids attend EBR public schools but you haven't identified the type.
Here is proof that you're either a liar or you truly do have memory issues. The following post by me was followed by numerous replies BY YOU TO ME.
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My kids all went to EBR magnet schools and graduated from BR Magnet High School. It's a terrific high school.
LINK
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:50 pm to
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I said the previous proposal had its merits. I think SEBR should have better schools.


Thank you for conceding that.

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I am against SEBR acting like a bunch of petulant children trying to take their ball and go home.


I'm linking an article about Norman Browning that Russian first brought to the board. LINK

Browning tried the community activist role, he volunteered to help in schools, but he saw the problems from the inside and gave up.

If that's a petulant child than so be it. Reading the article, it sounds more like a guy with a passion, a cause, who at 61 wants to make things right. But that's just my take. You read it and form your own opinion.

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They are snake oil salesmen thats are leading SEBR to become another Baker


They could be, or they could be like the people in Zachary or Central who are making positive changes.

No one knows how an ISD would do, but if concerned people stay on top of their officials and if concerned citizens get involved, etc. then the process should work.

Now if the Federal Judges take over, or if you let the unions get control over teachers, and if the leadership is more about covering their asses and playing politics than educating children it too would fail and we'd be back where we are now.

Considering the status of the current system, I really can't see how they could do much worse.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63080 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:51 pm to
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They are snake oil salesmen thats are leading SEBR to become another Baker





Your concern for SEBR is noted. Personally, I think SEBR is capable of making its own decisions on how to better itself.
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:00 pm to
I recognize that opponents of the movement have some valid questions/concerns. What I don't understand is how anyone could honestly deny that EBRP is losing young families to Livingston, Ascension, Central, & Zachary. It's been shown in study after study.

As for how St.George would magically become a better school system, it's one word: Accountability.

Are there any guarantees? Nope. It's a gamble most proponents are willing to take. Central went from being part of the 41st ranked school system in the state, to now being #3 as Central Community Schools.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:07 pm to
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Here is proof that you're either a liar or you truly do have memory issues. The following post by me was followed by numerous replies BY YOU TO ME.


First, I don't see anywhere that I responded to that particular post. You make so many it's hard to keep up. I did respond to others you made in that thread.

But being an honest person, I can say I remember parts of that post; but not the part where your kids went to BRHS Magnet.

But what difference does that make, if I didn't see or if I don't recall what you posted in December? It doesn't make you right and me wrong. It only means you remembered where your kids went to school and I didn't know (but I guessed right).

It does is confirm my opinion of what's motivating you. You are a BR City guy, and a magnet elite. The system works in your favor, and you aren't going to back down.

Thxs for sharing.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:08 pm to
Sprocket, do you live in SG? Are you satisfied with the status quo? Do you think SG could do better? Do your kids go to public or private schools?

TIA
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63080 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:12 pm to
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As for how St.George would magically become a better school system, it's one word: Accountability.



I'd add lack of bureaucracy.

Opponents don't really think that schools would fail to improve in St. George. It is exactly what they are afraid of.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 1:13 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134935 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:18 pm to
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It doesn't make you right and me wrong.
Yes, it does. See below.

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I suspected all along your kids attend EBR public schools but you haven't identified the type.
You're wrong. I obviously "identified the type" in a thread in which you replied to me numerous times after I did it.

This example is just one of many where you display a lack of cognitive ability, even asking me for a link to a statement I've made when my statement was based on something YOU HAD POSTED and provided a link for!

I have concluded beyond a doubt that you have some type of mental disability.

As a personal policy I never make fun or criticize someone with that condition. So I'm going to lay off criticizing your memory lapses and incoherent statements in the future. From now on whenever you make a repetitive statement or ask for a link to anything that has Already Been Covered (ABC), I'm just going to post "ABC" rather than make an issue of your mental deficiency.

I hope you get help for your condition before it's too late.

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You are a BR City guy, and a magnet elite.
Is your problem you recognize your kids performed poorly in school and could not qualify for the magnet or gifted program so you're looking to blame someone else for their academic failure?
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 1:22 pm
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