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re: MAHA: Child vaccine schedule reduces from 72 jabs to 11

Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:19 pm to
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But I'm not sure I agree with having kids completely un vaccinated in the school system.


Why? They let HIV kids in...
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:23 pm to
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I'm not arguing, but what did I overcount?


1. Hepatitis B
2. Rotavirus
3. Diphtheria
4. Tetanus
5. Pertussis
6. Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
7. Pneumococcal disease
8. Polio
9. Influenza
10. Measles
11. Mumps
12. Rubella
13. Varicella (chickenpox)
14. Hepatitis A
15. Meningococcal disease
16. Human papillomavirus (HPV)
17. COVID

You are likely counting maybe tuberculosis and others which isn’t actually recommended unless exposure reasons
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 12:24 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:24 pm to
Unless you're having sex at school or sharing needles there, HIV+ kids aren't a risk for transmitting that virus. Not so for the other diseases that schools require being vaccinated for which are passed through breathing/coughing.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47573 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:25 pm to
Get vaccinated. Then you don’t have to worry about that.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:26 pm to
Not everyone can be vaccinated and vaccines aren't 100% effective.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:28 pm to
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Unless you're having sex at school or sharing needles there, HIV+ kids aren't a risk for transmitting that virus.


Kids get a lot of booboos.

There was a kid in another classroom at one of my kid's schools that had a messy ostomy bag that wasn't well cared for that was HIV positive. I found that more risky than my vaccinated kid catching mumps from an unvaccinated kid.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:28 pm to
Then homeschool

My body my choice.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:30 pm to
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Not everyone can be vaccinated and vaccines aren't 100% effective.


The onus should never be on one child to protect another.

Period.
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2007
3021 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:30 pm to
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But I'm not sure I agree with having kids completely un vaccinated in the school system.


Why? They let HIV kids in...


Some kids have legit medical reasons why they can't take certain vaccines. Not just because their parents are stupid.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:30 pm to
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There was a kid in another classroom at one of my kid's schools that had a messy ostomy bag that wasn't well cared for that was HIV positive. I found that more risky than my vaccinated kid catching mumps from an unvaccinated kid.


Sure, but how rare is this? a bag PLUS HIV positve? Geez, poor kid
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:31 pm to
That's a significant health issue that you were right to be concerned about. Even if there was a HIV vaccine I don't think it would be school-mandated, though, because in the general case HIV isn't a risk to casual contact.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111419 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:31 pm to
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My body my choice.
Exactly. So if you want to not vax your kids you can choose to send them to a private school that allows that or homeschool as you said

But a govt run school should be allowed to have requirements just as a private school would for its students.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 12:32 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:31 pm to
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Some kids have legit medical reasons why they can't take certain vaccines. Not just because their parents are stupid.


This isn't a discussion for the 0.01% of the population.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
21716 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:32 pm to
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Some kids have legit medical reasons why they can't take certain vaccines.


Those parents have choices to make, then... it's not on everyone else to protect their child.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:32 pm to
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So if you want to not vac your kids you can snooze to send them to a private school that allows that or homeschool as you said


How many private schools allow unvaccinated? I'd think, maybe I'm completely wrong here, that most private schools like most catholic and religions schools would be more PRO vaccine than public schools?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111419 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:33 pm to
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How many private schools allow unvaccinated? I'd think, maybe I'm completely wrong here, that most private schools like most catholic and religions schools would be more PRO vaccine than public schools?
Not sure haven’t looked. But he is right, it’s his body his choice. He can choose to homeschool or look for a school that fits his liking
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:33 pm to
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The onus should never be on one child to protect another.

Period.


Any politics that operationalizes this will have to make peace with considerably more preventable diseases, deaths, disability, and higher healthcare costs.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
21716 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:34 pm to
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Sure, but how rare is this? a bag PLUS HIV positve? Geez, poor kid


Yeah, I felt bad for the kid- had a whole host of issues.

As for rarity? Hopefully really freaking rare... then again, those things aren't typically disclosed, I had no business knowing about it aside from being friends with a paraprofessional that should not have told me.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21716 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:36 pm to
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Any politics that operationalizes this will have to make peace with considerably more preventable diseases, deaths, disability, and higher healthcare costs.


Or... parents can tailor their child's needs in a way that doesn't depend on "the herd".

We aren't talking about a peanut butter free classroom, but of preventative interventions that do come with a risk profile.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:41 pm to
there are going to be tradeoffs. I had my kids vaccinated because I thought the health benefits were significant and risks were minimal relative to the benefit, plus it allows them to go to a school with kids who have health problems they wouldn't otherwise because their parents wouldn't expose them to risk. It's helped my kids develop some empathy for those with health problems - not a bad thing.
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