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re: MAHA: Child vaccine schedule reduces from 72 jabs to 11

Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:41 pm to
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Wait, MMR is still recommended? Why didn't they listen to Dr. Jennifer McCarthy?


Go read the manufacturer’s insert and then look at your kids odds of something bad happening from the disease vs the vaccine. Should take 30 minutes to realize the vaccine is much much worse than a disease that everyone used to get and survive with life long immunity UNLESS they had severe autoimmune issues or malnourishment
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:43 pm to
from measles? lol
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:44 pm to
If the vaccines work then why should I be forced to put an experimental shot into my children? Yes they’re experimental because they’ve NEVER been tested in a double blind TRUE saline placebo study.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:44 pm to
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It's helped my kids develop some empathy for those with health problems - not a bad thing.


While my kids are mostly vaccinated- I don't think I'd ever weigh "empathy" when making a medical decision.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:48 pm to
That was a side benefit. The main benefits are protecting yourself from diseases and protecting other people. Plus, those vaccines are needed in all sorts of walks of life. You can't work as a health care worker or serve in the military without them (and for good reason).
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:51 pm to
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You can't work as a health care worker or serve in the military without them (and for good reason).


Yes, tailored care is the way to go. Tailored, informed, care.

I did get what you were saying about your own munchkins- just needling you a bit.
Posted by LSUbacchus81
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Aug 2007
5895 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:52 pm to
Damn the libs aren’t going to like this. This could actually be the worst thing Trump has done yet to their brains and I’m here for it!
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:55 pm to
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Or... parents can tailor their child's needs in a way that doesn't depend on "the herd".



Why even have any epidemiological intervention at all? The protection of the 'herd' is a fact of human immunology, one which makes humans extremely resilient to a wide variety of pathogens spread across very unique environments.

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We aren't talking about a peanut butter free classroom, but of preventative interventions that do come with a risk profile.



In what case does the risk profile of the vaccine or the intervention outweigh the risk profile of the original disease? You can google or ask AI all you want, but this situation doesn't exist.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:57 pm to
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In what case does the risk profile of the vaccine or the intervention outweigh the risk profile of the original disease?


Newborn dose of hep, born of mothers that aren't carrying it.

HPV vaccine to 9yr old boys.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:57 pm to
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Should take 30 minutes to realize the vaccine is much much worse than a disease that everyone used to get and survive with life long immunity UNLESS they had severe autoimmune issues or malnourishment


The sequalae of regular measles and mumps infections are serious enough and present with lifelong consequences that I suspect you don't understand what those sequalae actually are.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:59 pm to
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Newborn dose of hep, born of mothers that aren't carrying it.



You are saying Hep B vaccination is worse than the possibility of getting hepatocellular carcinoma later in life? Is that the calculation you really want to make?

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HPV vaccine to 9yr old boys.



Yes, they should all just get throat cancer when they are adults like Michael Douglass. Very cool stuff here.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:11 pm to
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Oh wow, a newborn being around healthcare workers who might be exposed.


Most newborns are roomed with their mother.

Also, hopefully the healthcare workers aren't sexing with the babies or sharing drugs.

ETA: diseased healthcare workers have no business working with neonates, or anyone.

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There are no vaccine side effects that one, you can categorize in order to make an accurate risk assessment and two, are worse than the possibility of cancer.


It doesn’t protect against all ano-genital and throat cancers. They doubled their market by dropping the age and doubled it again by including boys.

This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47573 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:19 pm to
Great. Then why would anyone need to be forced to do anything? Let the government schools require whatever they like and let me have my taxes for public K-12 back and we have a deal.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47573 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:19 pm to
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ano-genital and throat cancer

Please don’t summon SFP into this thread.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:20 pm to
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Most newborns are roomed with their mother.

Also, hopefully the healthcare workers aren't sexing with the babies or sharing drugs.

ETA: diseased healthcare workers have no business working with neonates, or anyone.


Again, think logically. Why are healthcare workers required to have hepatitis b vaccinations? You undermine your own points and then invent narratives to justify your idiocy. Stay consistent. And again, what are the risks of Hep B vaccination? Describe them for me.

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It doesn’t protect against all ano-genital and throat cancers. They doubled their market by dropping the age and doubled it again by including boys.



First, this isn't an answer to my question. Stay on point. And secondly, this covers the strains that cause both warts and cancers. Do you understand how ubiquitous HPV is?

The reality is this. You don't have any data on whether these vaccines are worse than the long-term sequalae of infectious diseases. You just can repeat it without evidence. If you profess interest in scientific understanding, then reason like a scientist. On one side, we have a low-cost intervention where the risk profiles in a population are so minimal that non of these anti-vaccine proponents can even point to a specific pathology associated with vaccines. And on the other hand, we have very strong evidence of cancers being caused by strains of a ubiquitous pathogen.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:25 pm to
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The reality is this. You don't have any data on whether these vaccines are worse than the long-term sequalae of infectious diseases. You just can repeat it without evidence


Many countries don't use gardasil and there are lawsuits against gardasil ongoing right now.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:32 pm to
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Many countries don't use gardasil and there are lawsuits against gardasil ongoing right now.



You retort like this and then wonder why I treat you like you are an absolute moron.

Again, show me the risks of Hep B vaccination in terms of sequalae and HPV in terms of sequalae. What are the linked pathologies? What is the presentation of those pathologies?

I suppose I am wondering why the logic of avoiding sequalae of infectious diseases which might have mild presentations but lifelong consequences works for some vaccines and not for others. What is the cutoff?

If I can guess your answer, you will ignore the direct questions again, and instead come up with some reply you think pithy. They really aren't sending their best. Sad!
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17241 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:37 pm to
On fox news this morning the newsperson did a big feature and vaccines being reduces from 18 to 11 not 72 t0 11. I just don't get why Trump wants to exagerrate shite all the time.

LINK
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37314 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:44 pm to
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Look up the 2025 regimen and then Apologize for being an a-hole.

I’m aware of it and still have a child that age. They aren’t getting anywhere close to 72 shots unless you’re trying to make each dose of things like MMR count as multiple “shots”
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:46 pm to
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Liar. Or just an ignorant rube. Either way.



My man, you appear to be upset that the human immune system needs priming.
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