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re: "Mad Dog" Mattis stepping down in February

Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:13 pm to
I think this was the final straw for Mattis.

He’s a man that has done a tremendous service for our county. He publicly hated the withdrawal from Iran and I bet he’s hates this withdrawal from Syria/Afghanistan especially given that it was so sporadic and out of the blue it seems like.

All of it needed to happen though and the folks at the Pentagon have their own agenda. It’s certinly not valuing American lives. It’s purely decisions driven for profit.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
4563 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:13 pm to
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Nah man. You aren't "with" anyone. You just spout out whatever you're told to.


USMC May 1987 - August 2011.
I talk like an American, not a REP or DEM, like an American. You should give it a try.
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
8319 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:14 pm to
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Oh. Well I'll sit here and wait for you to give me tangible examples of all the great things Mattis accomplished as SECDEF


I'm not inclined to try to compile a list for you. I'll just say that I take exception to you saying that Mattis is a huge failure.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:15 pm to
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USMC May 1987 - August 2011.
I talk like an American, not a REP or DEM, like an American. You should give it a try.


Well Semper Fi but you should know better than to want to stay in these wars. Just because Mattis is a fellow Marine doesn't mean he's a good SECDEF. He's demonstrably not.
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 6:16 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:16 pm to
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'm not inclined to try to compile a list for you.
Shocked
quote:

I'll just say that I take exception to you saying that Mattis is a huge failure.

I don't care
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17034 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:17 pm to
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Yeah, I know. When Obama was trying to get out of Iraq, this board was cheering him on and this board was NOT saying we're surrendering to terrorists and this board was NOT saying Obama was making he was making America unsafe, right?

Boom
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17034 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:18 pm to
Mattis is ripping Trump!
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
8319 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:19 pm to
how about if your provide "tangible examples" of Mattis being a "huge failure"
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
714 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:24 pm to
So much winning!
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:24 pm to
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how about if your provide "tangible examples" of Mattis being a "huge failure"

Well I’ve already done that in this thread but I’d hate for you to actually read.

He’s weak on NATO

Wants to stay in Iraq, Afghanistan

Our Navy can’t steer boats

Hasn’t done jack shite about the social experiments the Obama administration put in place in the military. This is the biggest by the way considering administering the military and setting military policy is his main job.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10538 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:26 pm to
frick. Who is Trump listening to that anyone trusts?
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
8319 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:29 pm to
I don't agree with you but OK. I apologize for calling you an idiot.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46248 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:31 pm to
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Trump has made his own supporters look foolish. Just a few years ago they detested the thought of leaving the middle east and not protecting us from terrorists. Now, they have become Dems and have let the terrorists rule the middle east which will only allow them eventually come through Mexico and kill every American.


You’ve puked out a gem right here baw! Lol!
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27017 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 6:31 pm to
Is Mattis upset about leaving in general or is it just the blundering way it is announced?

I am all for getting the hell out. Is it just a disagreement on pace and timing and when things are made public?

I don’t pretend to know the proper way to withdraw our troops without getting troops hurt or fricking the Kurds.
Posted by Bengalbio
Tampa, FL
Member since Feb 2017
1415 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 7:12 pm to
Whatever happened to "fight em' there or fight em' here"?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 7:13 pm to
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Whatever happened to "fight em' there or fight em' here"?

It didn’t work. Next question
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71477 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 7:19 pm to
Yay getting us out of pointless, endless wars.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23747 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 7:36 pm to
Al Qaeda is beaten and has been for a long time. No need to be in Afghanistan all our people are and have been are targets.

Truth be told there likely has been a Russian Presence in Syria since the 60's. They drive Russian tanks use Russian missile systems and fly MiG's this is nothing new.

I get tired of seeing notices on Facebook of dead and maimed US soldiers and members of other branches and for what? Time to come home.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 7:45 pm to
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When Mattis, one of the most respected military leaders of this generation, writes his book in the future outlining what a supreme frickup Trump has been as President will he get the Mueller treatment by the Trumpkins?


did you forget how they already turned on him once?
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 7:46 pm
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13545 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 7:56 pm to
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In the one where Trump pulls out of two pointless and unwinnabke wars and Mattis quits over it.



AND the Dems now have to find a way to twist and contort themselves into being opposed to bringing troops home from pointless combat simply because Trump did it.

Hell, there's already been several in this thread and on PT
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