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re: LSU Football new campaign - Be the change #GeauxVote

Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:01 am to
Posted by BlueTiger54
Member since Aug 2016
124 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:01 am to
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That is a very charitable interpretation of this whole deal imo. Let's not kid ourselves, they have a very clear idea of who to vote for and I can promise you it is not a small government libertarian type or Republican.


Don’t disagree with that, they absolutely are likely to vote opposite of my political views but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be encourage to vote if they want “change”

I don’t see the issue
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9544 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:04 am to
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Don’t disagree with that, they absolutely are likely to vote opposite of my political views but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be encourage to vote if they want “change”

I don’t see the issue


Yea, I agree. However, let's not act like young people are going to be coming out in droves to vote for Creepy Joe or get involved in local politics.

This is an overused phrase but this is just virtue signalling. Young people are the these reliable base and comrade Bernie learned that lesson twice now.
Posted by BlueTiger54
Member since Aug 2016
124 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:06 am to
[img]Yea, I agree. However, let's not act like young people are going to be coming out in droves to vote for Creepy Joe or get involved in local politics. This is an overused phrase but this is just virtue signalling. Young people are the these reliable base and comrade Bernie learned that lesson twice now.[/img]

Exactly, that’s why I see no issue with this phrase
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:07 am to
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LSU football nor the AD as a while should not be getting involved in political speech as a government agency.


Good thing this isn’t political speech. It’s not a good look to view encouraging increased voter turnout to be political speech.

Be the change you want. That’s all the message is. Want to overturn Roe v Wade? Be the change. Want to legalize marijuana? Be the change. Either way, you should vote.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29275 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:09 am to
You’re being willfully obtuse and ignoring the other nonsense they’ve been plying
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175754 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:09 am to
Where did they post this
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:11 am to
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don’t be obtuse


Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27335 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:16 am to
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Not following your logic. They clearly want change, the best way to do that is vote. Should LSU not support them “to be the change” , then go vote?


I disagree with your logic. Be the change is a call to action, and it is bolstering their idea that change is necessary. But where? For who?

They are going to vote out Democrats in these cities and they'll vote in more Democrats. The cities that are having the most issues right now have been under Democrat rule for DECADES.

Here's the last time each of these cities had a Republican Mayor:
Minneapolis: 1973
Chicago: 1931
Baltimore: 1963
St. Louis: 1949
Detroit: 1962
New Orleans: 1872
Baton Rouge: had republican leadership from 1995-2005, but since RECONSTRUCTION and since 2005, full Democrat control.


So WHAT CHANGE will voting bring them? They're going to vote in more Democrats. And if we're to believe that Trump has caused all of this chaos and dysfunction in inner cities, then he's obviously not the idiot the left makes him out to be. (To be clear, no President and no Republican has had any effect on these cities in decades. They exist today as Democrats want them to be.)
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:18 am to
I disagree. More than half of the country barely have an IQ above room temperature and you expect them to understand the very real implications of even the most basic issues?

We need less people voting. Not more.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45229 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:20 am to
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They may simply say that voting is how we make change, not for a specific one.

Then how about:

“BE HEARD”
“SHARE YOUR VOICE”
“YOUR OPINION MATTERS”
“IT’S YOUR RIGHT”
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34094 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:26 am to
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Not following your logic. They clearly want change, the best way to do that is vote. Should LSU not support them “to be the change” , then go vote?

Would you rather them supporting looting and riots? I’m confused

LSU isn’t encouraging them to change, just encouraging if you want “change “ the way to do that is vote

Agree LSU should not be supporting any “movement” or political issue. I don’t feel they are with this message but I guess you can spin it however you’d like


The university is saying "be the change". It's not saying "if you think there needs to be a change, then go vote." That implies the university's position is that "change" is needed from a political standpoint (LSU doesn't need someone to register to vote to make internal changes. They can do that themselves)
Posted by BlueTiger54
Member since Aug 2016
124 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:27 am to
[img]You’re being willfully obtuse and ignoring the other nonsense they’ve been plying[/img]

I disagree. I think it’s obtuse to be like lefty liberals and spin a message to fit my views.

All they are encouraging is to “be the change”, go vote. I see nothing wrong with that even though they are likely voting opposite my views. That used to be ok in this country, not anymore though. Each side is “us vs them” and it’s miserable
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138073 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:28 am to
The message here isn't geaux vote, it's geaux vote for who we want you to.

I really hope TAF sees a major backlash on this.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14086 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:28 am to
With Biden, Shumer, and AOC in charge, who will be able to afford a ticket.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138073 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:29 am to
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All they are encouraging is to “be the change”, go vote. I see nothing wrong with that even though they are likely voting opposite my views. That used to be ok in this country, not anymore though. Each side is “us vs them” and it’s miserable

I disagree. This campaign needs to be viewed in the broader context of what LSU has been promoting in the last 2 weeks.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9544 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:31 am to
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This campaign needs to be viewed in the broader context of what LSU has been promoting in the last 2 weeks.



Bingo. This is not done in a vacuum and all coordinated. There is only one acceptable party to support in all this bullshite. Do not kid yourselves or fall for their bullshite.
Posted by BlueTiger54
Member since Aug 2016
124 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:31 am to
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I disagree. This campaign needs to be viewed in the broader context of what LSU has been promoting in the last 2 weeks.


That’s fair. I just disagree, but you may be right.

It certainly is not in LSUs best interest to promote any political views
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14086 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:33 am to
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I don’t see the issue



You must be living under a rock. From the time they enter first grade they are being programmed.
Few have two parents.
The MSM continues the brainwashing.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27335 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:34 am to
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All they are encouraging is to “be the change”, go vote. I see nothing wrong with that even though they are likely voting opposite my views. That used to be ok in this country, not anymore though. Each side is “us vs them” and it’s miserable


That's not what LSU is doing.

You don't light up your stadium to honor a multiple felon without taking an official political stance. You don't post "BLACK LIVES MATTER" with the tiger head logo without taking an official political stance. You don't then post "BE THE CHANGE" without taking an official political stance.

You may want to believe these things aren't indicative of a politically expedient and one-sided stance, and that's your right. If you do, contact me, I've got some beachfront property in Kansas to sell you.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138073 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:35 am to
It amazes me how people can be so naive as to think the progressives in these academic institutions are doing these things in earnest to promote a neutral cause. There's a reason why there's always a big rally to get young people to vote and it's because they're young, idealistic, and more likely to vote left. These people will say it's irresponsible to let a 16 year old buy a pack of smokes because they don't understand what they're doing but will say it's perfectly fine to let them vote.
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