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Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:18 am to Timeoday
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I would much rather see money spent on real mental help and disease treatment than simply sending it to the city or county jails for incarceration
Honestly, both are pissing away money
You can't help an addict who doesn't want help, and drugs are rampant in jails anyway.
It's sad to say, but IDC about addicts. I only care about functioning members of society and if this gets some addicts off the street for those members to feel safer, then I am all for it.
I have long said we should give addicts all of the drugs they want in hopes they wash themselves out but they understand there will be no hospital assistance for them. Not even Narcan, and when they die, if no one claims their remains, we spend $500 cremating them and move on.
Sounds cruel so people think it's soulless, but a ton of addicts are beyond help so much so that their own families gave up on them.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:21 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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Sorry, but this is a logical fallacy.
Meh...
The preacher, who I actually went to high school with, is a liberal socialist. He's a self-hating hipster white dude who supported BLM and hates Trump.
The church thought it was doing good in the community, and its effort was probably well-intentioned, but the irony is what it has done to that entire area through those intentions.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:26 am to Decatur
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Who cares as long as you don’t have to look at them, amirite?
You are always so dishonest and liken this to only be disgusted by looking at them.
The shopping area I referenced constantly has issues with the vagrants harassing people. I had one come up on me at the ATM there once and I told him to back up and I had a gun in my truck. He started shouting how much he hates white people. It was a whole scene.
If that church never created a situation where they all stay close for the free handouts, then innocent people aren't getting harassed just trying to go about their day.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:26 am to Hangover Haven
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Many of the homeless are drug addicts, but many want that lifestyle, the ones who cannot function in a responsible lifestyle. They want to function with little to no requirements, this is freedom to them, they have little to no hope.
Yeah, this is my fear, and this includes voluntary rehab, which none of this will be. Establishing a special court and basically cycling these people in and out of treatment while monitoring them could get pretty expensive. I’m not sure what the answer to the problem is, but I don’t think this is it.

Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:28 am to stout
The National Homelessness Law Center
Is there ANY doubt that it’s just some type of money laundering organization?
Is there ANY doubt that it’s just some type of money laundering organization?
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:29 am to ReauxlTide222
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The National Homelessness Law Center
Well, they are based in Washington DC so that much is obvious. No telling how many NGOs send them money
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:33 am to High C
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Yeah, this is my fear,
I know, it's weird to us normal people, some homeless would rather live that lifestyle than function in a responsible society. I'll never get it...
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:33 am to stout
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The shopping area I referenced constantly has issues with the vagrants harassing people.
Omg did they ask someone for money!
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The shopping area I referenced constantly has issues with the vagrants harassing people. I had one come up on me at the ATM there once and I told him to back up and I had a gun in my truck. He started shouting how much he hates white people. It was a whole scene.
Sounds like you barely escaped with your life.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:35 am to Decatur
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Omg did they ask someone for money!
You're such a dishonest twat
You should invite them to camp out on your front lawn when this bill passes and tell us how it goes.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:37 am to Decatur
Sounds like you enjoy being harassed for money by homeless addicts.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:38 am to High C
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Sounds like you enjoy being harassed for money by homeless addicts.
There's no chance he does. He just thinks it makes him some sort of erudite progressive to chide you for being willing to come out and say you don't like it.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:39 am to stout
Most homeless people are homeless by choice, addiction or mental illness but statistically the vast majority of them unfortunately do not want and will not accept help, only whatever they can get to facilitate their life on the streets or supplement their addictions.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:43 am to tide06
Correct
There are a lot of homeless people due to financial stress, but those people are actively seeking help and shelter that is available to them, so they aren't out harassing people usually.
The ones actually sleeping on the streets are addicts or suffering from mental issues. Those are the ones this law is intended for.
There are a lot of homeless people due to financial stress, but those people are actively seeking help and shelter that is available to them, so they aren't out harassing people usually.
The ones actually sleeping on the streets are addicts or suffering from mental issues. Those are the ones this law is intended for.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:44 am to stout
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It's sad to say, but IDC about addicts. I only care about functioning members of society and if this gets some addicts off the street for those members to feel safer, then I am all for it.
You sound like me a few years ago, then I married one. I have not had more joy in my life since we met. Was and is it challenging, well, of course it is. But she is beautiful, inside and out, and she had simply fell victim to the Power of the Dog!!
I even learned how, though I can drink socially, she can not. Yes, I do drink a lot less as a result of protecting her and my heart.
But believe me, I felt exactly the same regarding seeing or thinking "addiction" was a choice.
It is not!! It is a disease much like cancer but fuels an economy run by lawyers and incarceration instead of hospitals.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:48 am to Timeoday
Didn't seem like he was speaking to anything about it being a "choice."
But it also sound like you are more making the case that addicts do require some sort of outside influence in order to make themselves functioning members of society.
But it also sound like you are more making the case that addicts do require some sort of outside influence in order to make themselves functioning members of society.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:49 am to stout
"Forced unpaid labor"????
Whatever labor performed would be to pay for thier "treatment "!
If they refuse treatment or care, why should my tax dollars pay for them?
And why should tax paying folks have to deal with them in public?
Paul, who wrote 2/3rds of the New Testament dealt with this issue.....
Whatever labor performed would be to pay for thier "treatment "!
If they refuse treatment or care, why should my tax dollars pay for them?
And why should tax paying folks have to deal with them in public?
Paul, who wrote 2/3rds of the New Testament dealt with this issue.....
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2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you: that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:49 am to High C
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Sounds like you enjoy being harassed for money by homeless addicts.
I’ve gotten really good at telling people no. Takes one second. And no one has to go to jail.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:50 am to Timeoday
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But believe me, I felt exactly the same regarding seeing or thinking "addiction" was a choice.
It is not!! It is a disease much like cancer but fuels an economy run by lawyers and incarceration instead of hospitals.
Look, I have been around more addicts than most here.
When I need extra laborers, I always hire from a nearby sober living facility vs calling a day labor place, because I want to help those people trying to better their lives. I have hired probably close to 200 people from there over the past 15 years.
I have dealt with good ones who were ready and I also had a few steal from me because they fell back off the wagon. One came back years later and apologized and tried to repay me. I understand they struggle.
Those people are closer to your wife than the ones on the street who are too far gone. I had one tell me that when he finally became homeless was his rock bottom and what made him seek recovery.
Many who have been on the streets for years don't see it as a bottom or motivation. Also, many of them are so drug-burnt that they are now full-on mental cases. Both of the latter instances have a 0% chance of becoming functioning members of society, unlike your wife.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:57 am to Timeoday
You open a hospital and pay for all of it! Or better yet, take in 20 addicts and take care of them, you have this all figured out so it shouldn't be a problem.
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