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re: Lots of chatter that the bill will PASS the House.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 3:49 pm to Tiguar
Posted on 12/20/18 at 3:49 pm to Tiguar
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The house has never really been the concern
Yes it has. There hasn't been unanimous support for wall funding from House republicans. It was assumed they'd get the needed votes when it came down to it, but it was no sure thing. And even as we speak now, they're not 100% sure they have the votes.
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Posted on 12/20/18 at 3:56 pm to The Spleen
Rush says that if it's a budget amendment t doesn't need 60.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 3:56 pm to The Spleen
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not 100% sure they have the votes.
This. It will come down to a few votes.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 3:58 pm to The Spleen
Well it hasn't really been considered the "rate limiting step". The Senate has always been considered a taller hurdle to jump.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 3:59 pm to Tiguar
If it doesn’t pass shut it down and let the Dems explain why they prefer a shutdown over boarder security.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 3:59 pm to YankeeBama
link?
Posted on 12/20/18 at 3:59 pm to bamarep
Lets see how this turns out first . Then line them up baw 
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:00 pm to YankeeBama
How much wall can you build for 5 billion?What percent of the fence-able southern border would they cover?
Wasnt 25 billion on the table at one time?
Wasnt 25 billion on the table at one time?
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:00 pm to The Boat
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Basically the same game the GOP house played from 2010-2016 since they knew Obama would veto everything.
In fairness to the House, they passed a similar bill in 2017 but there was a few senators who sided with Dems to kill it despite voting over and over for it when Obama was in office to veto it. Thanks McCain
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:00 pm to YankeeBama
doesnt matter, its DOA in the senate, they already went home for the holidays unless they call them all back in for an emergency monday vote
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:02 pm to Simplemaaan
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Rush says that if it's a budget amendment t doesn't need 60.
The CR still needs 60. The specific amendment may just need 50, I'm not sure. The 50 vote threshold would apply if this was being done through reconciliation, but it's being done through the normal budget process.
Well, not really normal as it is supposed to be, but the CR process has replaced the budget process since the late 70's.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:10 pm to cajunangelle
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Link?
None at the moment. I’m just following reporters speculation on the house floor.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:12 pm to Simplemaaan
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Rush says that if it's a budget amendment t doesn't need 60.
Right. In general fiscal issues are not bound by the senate filibuster/cloture rules.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:13 pm to dstone12
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Wasnt 25 billion on the table at one time?
$21 billion. Schumer and Trump reached a tentative agreement for that figure in exchange for codifying DACA and protecting current DACA recipients. Trump went back on his word though, and that deal fell through. Then the Senate voted on the bill Trump actually supported and it didn't even get 30 Republican votes in favor of it.
So Trump did have the funding for his wall at one time, but let his ego get in the way.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:16 pm to The Spleen
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$21 billion. Schumer and Trump reached a tentative agreement for that figure in exchange for codifying DACA and protecting current DACA recipients. Trump went back on his word though, and that deal fell through. Then the Senate voted on the bill Trump actually supported and it didn't even get 30 Republican votes in favor of it.
So Trump did have the funding for his wall at one time, but let his ego get in the way.
I dont remember any of this. Not saying it didn't happen - I just cannot keep up with this shite anymore
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:20 pm to HailToTheChiz
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I dont remember any of this. Not saying it didn't happen - I just cannot keep up with this shite anymore
I know the feeling, and I have to correct myself. The $21 billion was the full border security line item, with only $1.6 billion for the wall.
Sorry. My mistake wasn't intentional.
WP link
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:25 pm to CAD703X
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this. doesnt it have to have 60 senate votes to pass?
what's the point of passing the house?
Doesn't it put democrats on the line for note passing it then, thus shutting down the gov't? That's how I view it as an independent. Otherwise, gotta blame the republicans.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:28 pm to The Spleen
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Yes, and several of them have already gone home. They can be called back, but do you really think they'll all come back just before Christmas to vote on a bill that's not going to pass?
Do you honestly think they WON'T come back when the government shuts down over this?
Either way, these yokels are going to be working over the holidays to get something passed to keep the government open.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:30 pm to RollTide1987
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Do you honestly think they WON'T come back when the government shuts down over this?
Well, Corker laughed when a reporter asked him if he'd return. Granted, he's retiring anyway so I don't blame him, but I doubt all of them come back this weekend to hold a vote on Monday. They may return late next week.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:32 pm to YankeeBama
I mean, Trump himself told us in the Chuck and Nancy meeting it needs 60 votes in the Senate to pass. Try to keep up.
He isn’t getting 60 votes in the Senate.
He isn’t getting 60 votes in the Senate.
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