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re: Lot of Gun Control Talk from the left...........but what are their actual proposals?

Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:27 am to
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:27 am to
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the danger to the public of those mags is infinitesimal.


Obviously it's not.

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Like slightly more dangerous than all these vaccines that cause autism.


Everything is more dangerous than something that doesn't exist.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:27 am to
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Read this article with a level head and what's the opinion. I'm also a trauma surgeon so I think I speak with some knowledge of the situation.



Its like an a-hole but everyone has one... The platform is not what does the damage from the gunshot wound but the type and caliber of the bullet utilized...

So, stick to fixing those trauma patients and I certainly hope you are more knowledgeable in that arena than you are in firearms...
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:27 am to
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Let's do an experiment. Go to the end of your driveway and start stopping cars and asking to buy weed from them and see what you get first, weed or a visit from law enforcement.

The answer to my question is obvious.


Hell, I live in a Parish of only 20,000-25,000. I can go out to the end of driveway and flag down cars and get pot faster than a visit from the cops, and the DARE officer lives only 2 miles away.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27576 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:28 am to
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Let's talk process. How is it proposed to be executed by the govt?


Never happen. It's as toxic for a GOP politician as limiting abortion rights would be for a dem.

You and I would have to hash out the "Tiger Dropping Firearm Accords" and submit it to Trump.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44221 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:28 am to
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Obviously it's not.


Ya, it is. In fact it's beyond infinitesimal.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40633 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:29 am to
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Why? Why is one dozen not enough?


They are fricking inanimate objects. I also have 5 AR-15s and a handful of glocks. They have never killed anyone
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6126 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:29 am to
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Yea the answer is obvious. but there is no logical analogy you are making that supports any of your points or ideas.


Sure there is. The chances of being harmed by an illegal firearm are less than being harmed by a legal one. If something is harder to get the chances of someone getting it goes down.

When was the last mass casualty even in the US caused by an RPG?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:29 am to
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I've actually done quite a bit of research on this topic on my own and I think I have a pretty good idea of the thinking surrounding the second amendment. What was their thinking?

What documents did you base this on?


Yeah. Anyone whose "research" on the thinking of the writers and signers of the constitution that doesn't include "well, let's look at what they actually DID after signing it" is stupid.

It's not like they all signed the thing, then died.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:30 am to
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illegal firearm


Define "illegal" for me here... for example a legally purchased firearm given to a convicted felon is in many cases an "illegal" firearm at that point...
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:30 am to
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Sure there is. The chances of being harmed by an illegal firearm are less than being harmed by a legal one. If something is harder to get the chances of someone getting it goes down.

General stats applied to individuals is bad methodology.

Alas. No liberals seem to know that.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6126 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:31 am to
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They are fricking inanimate objects. I also have 5 AR-15s and a handful of glocks. They have never killed anyone


Didn't answer my question. Why do you need "dozens" of magazines for 5 rifles?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16675 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:33 am to
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Is it easier to buy marijuana in Louisiana or Colorado?




Thanks for proving my point. Making something illegal does not stop it from happening. It just gives the government a mechanism to fine or imprison the offender.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40633 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:34 am to
Im sorry I thought this was America
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42191 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:34 am to
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Haughton99


Do you think Congress has the expertise to effectively craft legislation on firearm regulation that isn't feel good nonsense?

Keep in mind that is having idiots like Pelosi involved with this.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6126 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:35 am to
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General stats applied to individuals is bad methodology.

Alas. No liberals seem to know that.




Not it's not. I'm not pretending that banning high capacity magazines will keep someone from illegally obtaining one and killing a bunch of people. No law is 100% effective but thinking we should do nothing because no law is 100% effective is a logical fallacy.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40570 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:36 am to
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2nd amendment argument is nonsense because the people who wrote it were using muzzle loaders.




Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6126 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:36 am to
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Im sorry I thought this was America


Still didn't answer my question. I didn't ask you if you had the right to own "dozens" of magazines. Right now you 100% do. I simply asked why you felt the need.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:37 am to
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Then what is their purpose?


they are a gimmick.

To use a bump fire stock you hold your finger on an anchor point that is attached to the stock of the gun. The firearm is allowed to recoil/move in the slidefire stock. So when you pull the trigger the firearm will recoil back into the stock and release the trigger and allow it to reset. Then when the firearm rebounds from the recoil your finger pulls the trigger again. Which simulates full auto, but it is still semi-auto.

You can also simulate this by using a belt loop on your jeans or shorts.

There is a guy named Jerry Miculek that out ran a bump fire (slidefire) stock. Search World's Fastest Shooter vs. Bump Fire in YouTube.

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It's rate of fire is much faster than semi auto but less than full auto.


no its not. You are talking fractions of a second here.
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
1891 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:38 am to
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Good for you but is the bullet casing metal or is it plastic too?


The make polymer bullet casings as well. And deadly polymer bullets. If you don't know maybe you should learn before you try to be a smartass.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6126 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:38 am to
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Do you think Congress has the expertise to effectively craft legislation on firearm regulation that isn't feel good nonsense?

Keep in mind that is having idiots like Pelosi involved with this.


Pelosi is minority leader. They could pass a law with zero involvement from her.

Yes, I think they could if they wanted to.

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