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re: Looks like a plane hit a Helicopter at DCA airport
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:44 am to USAFTiger42
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:44 am to USAFTiger42
Well that’s bullshite. What an awful exclusion.
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:45 am to POTUS2024
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Sorry if already posted but I'm seeing reports (multiple youtube news videos) that there are zero survivors. This just sucks.
saw the same thing, also heard the plane broke into three parts, unlikely anyone survived that unfortunately. Pray for their souls.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:48 am to BluegrassCardinal
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I'm not one either, and know shite about aviation, or even pretend to. What I do know is there should be multiple, redundant ways to avoid a goddamn Blackhawk from flying into the path of a descending airliner.
not a pilot either but do know some about aviation in general.
modern aircrafts are equipped with TCAS which helps avoid collisions. edit: TCAS remains on during approach but the RA (resolution advisory) isn't on at low altitudes.
My question is does the blackhawk have TCAS?
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 7:50 am
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:52 am to DByrd2
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2). Helicopter was lower in altitude than the airplane and trying to gain altitude. Pilot misjudged his ascent and had no vertical visibility, thinking he was fine.
I think the pilot completely missed the CRJ (IDK how it was lit up like a Christmas tree) and only saw the 2nd plane on final that was a couple of miles behind the CRJ.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:56 am to USAFTiger42
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The really sad part of the story is that if there were 2 pilots on the helicopter then their families will get denied basically everything including life insurance. If the report shows them being 100 ft too high which puts them at fault.
I know this because one of my friends was killed due to pilot error on a deployment and the families of the pilots were exempt from the beneficiary list. My friend's wife told me that because all the families were in a Facebook group.
100% false.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:58 am to Florida_Man1981
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100% false.
Good. I was hoping that was BS.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:59 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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be a democrat talking point. In fact it may already be a democrat talking point, hence the comment. They stop at nothing to advance their agenda.
I hate the Dems as much as anyone, but stop acting like this is any different than Trump and the right politicizing the wildfires and numerous other tragedies.
It’s wrong by both sides, so stop trying to act above it all when you all did the same thing. Both people on the right and left suck. Your all the same.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:01 am to waiting4saturday
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I think the pilot completely missed the CRJ (IDK how it was lit up like a Christmas tree)
Probably because it was above him most of the time. I have no clue why ATC thought the chopper pilot could tell which plane was which as the Helicopter pilots visibility was pretty limited.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 8:18 am
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:04 am to TigerNAtux
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100% false.
Good. I was hoping that was BS.
There's a lot of false info on death benefits. The death gratuity is paid out immediately and the life insurance soon after. The line of duty investigation determines future survivor benefits but the bar is insanely high to prove not in the line of duty. A training accident would not meet that threshold no matter how tragic.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 8:06 am
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:06 am to Geauxgurt
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
Military pilots need more training apparently. ATC need to be more assertive and control space around an airport completely. Should move the military base since both ot the above will fade away over a few years….
Incompetence…
Incompetence…
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:11 am to Florida_Man1981
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:15 am to cajunangelle
I’m sure it’s just a horrific accident but damn when you look at that it sure looks like the craft at the bottom does it’s damndest to fly into the other.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:24 am to SpartanSoul
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Holy shite. Swalwell with a "could have been me "post. He must post on the OT.
He is getting murdered in the replies.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I have no clue why ATC thought the chopper pilot could tell which plane was which as the Helicopter pilots visibility was pretty limited.
You have the helicopter pilot's eyes.
Is there not radar on the helicopter and an onboard warning system? Even baws on the bayou have these on their center consoles.
You also have ATC and their radar systems.
All these levels of human and engineering controls to prevent a collision and it still happens. Amazing.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 8:33 am
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:28 am to UncleFestersLegs
Yea, maybe he saw the other one that can be seen taking off in the video and thought ATC was referring to that one instead.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:31 am to cascadia
Never mind.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 9:08 am
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:35 am to Wishnitwas1998
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WTH is a "doomsday plane"?
Well, we can tell that you never grew up during any phase of the Cold War...
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:36 am to Robin Masters
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I’m sure it’s just a horrific accident but damn when you look at that it sure looks like the craft at the bottom does it’s damndest to fly into the other.
You are assuming that 1) the plane was flying level and 2) in no turn. The plane had likely flared, nose slightly up, in preparation for landing attitude, and was in turn left (right wing higher) attitude. If the helicopter was lower than the plane, and ascending, while the plane was above the helicopter, and descending, there’s a good chance the pilots of the plane could not see the helicopter until the last second.
The tower screen is flat. Real world is 3D
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:44 am to cajunangelle
That doesn’t look good for either ATC or the helicopter.
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