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re: Lol large measles outbreak in Washington state due to anti vaxxers
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:14 pm to notsince98
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:14 pm to notsince98
Dude you’ve literally been tilting at wind mills today with the dumbest of links.
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:14 pm to ProjectP2294
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You know legionnaires disease wasn't named after the Roman legions right?
Did I say it was
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:17 pm to SDVTiger
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Legionnaires diseases
Odd thing to bring up in a discussion about anti-vaxxers
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:31 pm to SDVTiger
quote:You didn't say that it was named after them but you did say:
Did I say it was
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bringing back Legionnaires diseases from the Roman times
No biggie. Just saying.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:42 pm to ManBearTiger
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These large outbreaks of viral afflictions among Americans is directly attributed to the influx of unvaccinated immigrants who have avoided or are being allowed to bypass the proper process established for foreign nationals seeking entry into the country.
Only partly true. There's a big outbreak of measles up in NY right now and it is being blamed on "ultra" Orthodox Jews, some of whom do not believe in vaccines. Many of these people visit Israel routinely and the measles is believed to have spread from there to here. Israel is trying to convince them to vaccinate.
So it's not just shitholers. There's first world people who refuse vaccines for religious or ethical reasons, or because they believe in conspiracy theories.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:52 pm to AUstar
quote:This is true. The outbreak in WA is mostly concentrated in an eastern European immigrant community.
Only partly true. There's a big outbreak of measles up in NY right now and it is being blamed on "ultra" Orthodox Jews, some of whom do not believe in vaccines.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:56 pm to wazoo11
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There is no link between vaccines and autism. The doctor Wakefield is actually in jail for his fraudulent claims.
I’m not arguing vaccines, but you need to do your homework on the Wakefield study. You’ve apparently bought into a widely spread crock of shite.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:09 pm to wazoo11
quote:It is just your sort of stupidity which carries Wakefield's water.
There is no link between vaccines and autism. The doctor Wakefield is actually in jail for his fraudulent claims
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:17 pm to notsince98
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:17 pm to wazoo11
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There is no link between vaccines and autism. The doctor Wakefield is actually in jail for his fraudulent claims.
He’s not in jail that I know of. Link?
From the study:
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We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described. Virological studies are underway that may help to resolve this issue.
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If there is a causal link between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and this syndrome, a rising incidence might be anticipated after the introduction of this vaccine in the UK in 1988. Published evidence is inadequate to show whether there is a change in incidence22 or a link with measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine.23
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Final sentence of the study: “Further investigations are needed to examine this syndrome and its possible relation to this vaccine.”
That is the last sentence to the study. Is there another Wakefield study out there you are referring to?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:21 pm to indianswim
quote:Wakefield made the mistake of thinking he could apply Climate Science research methodology to real science.
That is the last sentence to the study. Is there another Wakefield study out there you are referring to?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:43 pm to AUstar
quote:Yes. I am pretty sure we can eliminate Israel as having a Central America immigration problem.
Only partly true. There's a big outbreak of measles up in NY right now and it is being blamed on "ultra" Orthodox Jews, some of whom do not believe in vaccines. Many of these people visit Israel routinely and the measles is believed to have spread from there to here. Israel is trying to convince them to vaccinate.
So it's not just shitholers. There's first world people who refuse vaccines for religious or ethical reasons, or because they believe in conspiracy theories.
But Washington State / Oregon has a large population of Mormons who do a lot of missionary work and sometimes bring diseases back with them. I think some of the anti-vaccine stuff started out there as well.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:45 pm to mmcgrath
The anti vaccine movement is an odd alliance of new age/alternative medicine liberals and batshit fundamentalists.
Very weird coalition.
Very weird coalition.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:That's why it's funny when people point the finger. This isn't a left-right issue. It's a wingnut issue.
The anti vaccine movement is an odd alliance of new age/alternative medicine liberals and batshit fundamentalists.
Very weird coalition.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:I have to agree with you and NorthShore guy on this one. It has right and left roots, and the majority of righties and lefties would love to pretend either one never existed.
The anti vaccine movement is an odd alliance of new age/alternative medicine liberals and batshit fundamentalists.
Very weird coalition.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:06 pm to Jorts R Us
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Odd thing to bring up in a discussion about anti-vaxxers
Why? The homeless population is out of control in Wa and Cali create all sorts of diseases but mu anti vaxxers are at fault
Roman Times Medieval Times whatever
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:09 pm to SDVTiger
quote:or... the 1970's
Roman Times Medieval Times whatever
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:42 pm to northshorebamaman
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Roman Times Medieval Times whatever
or... the 1970's
It's all the same
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:44 pm to SDVTiger
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:06 pm to SDVTiger
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Why? The homeless population is out of control in Wa and Cali create all sorts of diseases but mu anti vaxxers are at fault
LMAO!This is perhaps one of your most idiotic statements on this subject.
You DO realize homeless people have been around for decades in Cali and Washington, correct? You also realize (I hope) that measles were pretty much eradicated in this country in 2000,correct?
Gee,wonder what happened in the 19 years since 2000? Care to take a guess?
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Measles was declared eliminated (absence of continuous disease transmission for greater than 12 months) from the United States in 2000. This was thanks to a highly effective vaccination program in the United States, as well as better measles control in the Americas region. For more information, see Frequently Asked Questions about Measles in the U.S.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 12:23 am
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