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re: Located new photo on Telegram of other sniper team

Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:41 am to
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:41 am to
I’ll ask you too and we’ll see if you have an answer that may be smart, or can’t muster anything on an grown up level:

If there was a conspiracy between government agents of the secret service and the shooter, then why did they take him out before he finished the job that, as you suggest, they were in cahoots to accomplish??

Let’s have it smart guy.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27395 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:42 am to
He denied RFK Jr., also. What the hell are we doing?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:42 am to
quote:

Bongino says Biden admin has said no to repeated requests for more SS resources.


Dept of Homeland Security
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:08 am to
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Dept of Homeland Security

Yes. I said the Biden admin.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:25 am to
quote:

Bongino says Biden admin has said no to repeated requests for more SS resources.


Trump team should publish the requests and the rejections
Posted by Blutoismyname
Cherokee County
Member since Jun 2024
194 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:33 am to
Tim McCarthy was a SS agent on that detail when Reagan and Brady were shot. He is not happy today with what went down and he did say in plain English last night in an ABC interview: We failed as a service in 1981, and this team failed today.

So go put that in your pipe and smoke on it don’t ya weak sauce.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11615 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:35 am to
quote:

If there was a conspiracy between government agents of the secret service and the shooter, then why did they take him out before he finished the job


I’m not fully bought in on this theory, but the simple answer to your question is that the SS would assume the shooter hit his mark. Trump grabbed at his head and went down. Hell, the SS sniper wasn’t even looking at trump. IF this were the plan, his instructions would be to kill the shooter after he got his shot off, with the assumption that the shooter would hit his mark.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11366 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 2:42 am to
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Well, let’s see, why did they wait until David Hinkley shot Reagan before jumping to action? I mean hell, Hinkley was right there in plain sight, damn near right in the middle of a bunch of SS agents. With uzis and shite. Yet the guy was able to pump off rounds into the bodies of both Reagan and Brady. I guess they were in on that one too.

Oh and basically same situation with RFK. There’s the guy, right there in arm’s reach. Yet there again guy gets off fatal rounds.

I’m y’all nicely to please start out at less conspiratorial levels and as the less nefarious possibilities are ruled out, IF they’re ruled out, then fine, move on up to the wildest scenarios you can come up with.


It's funny that you condemn people for believing in conspiracies, but then to support your argument that things can just go wrong naturally, you cite 2 examples of conspiracy-laden assassination attempts.

It's odd that the family of the would-be assassin of Reagan was friends with the guy who would have became the new president. A guy who was also head of the CIA. There's also evidence to support Sirhan Sirhan being a victim of MKUltra.

Posted by Fububutsy
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2007
4087 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 2:44 am to
Entry is likely at his forehead on the left side, covered so you can’t see, but look at the back edge of his neck that you can see, you’ll definitely notice the exit wound.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 2:50 am
Posted by Heyes
Baton. Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
813 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 2:47 am to
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Well, let’s see, why did they wait until John Hinkley shot Reagan before jumping to action? I mean hell, Hinkley was right there in plain sight, damn near right in the middle of a bunch of SS agents


Know who Hinkley’s dad worked for ?
That ex CIA head , George HW Bush .
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 8:45 am
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
12967 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 3:04 am to
quote:

Bongino says Biden admin has said no to repeated requests for more SS resources.


That would absolutely be the real kill shot if proven if today's shooting did not clinch it.
Posted by Wire Road 2
Member since Jul 2022
177 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 3:58 am to
Combine that with info on how the dems dialed down security on Jan 6 and it would paint a clear picture of how they want disasters to happen.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 4:05 am to
What am I missing here? It’s probably reasonable to assume that that is what brought him to the world of D.C. to begin with and sparked his obsession with politics as it intersected with the President, President Reagan. That’s simply why he was physically in the area and obsessed with politics. Did I already say that? If so my B.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 4:06 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 4:07 am to
Calm yourself. I haven’t condemned a damn person for a damn thing. What we’re talking about is a literal conspiracy. Stop trying to find a reason to be offended and incensed.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 4:08 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 4:10 am to
The first 3/4 of your post I was somewhat impressed with. Then you flushed it right down the shitter with the last quarter.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138941 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 4:12 am to
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Let’s have it smart guy.
Because once Trump was hit and ducked, it was over, smart guy. Multiple people saw the shooter slowly crawling up the roof. They pointed him out. They got police and SS attention, and pointed him out. The Hinkley comparison is stupid.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 7:04 pm
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
10791 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 5:40 am to
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They don't see him till he skylines at the top of the roof. He's crawling up the backside till then. I suspect once he got up to the top he got the gun ready then popped over. They had almost no chance at that point of stopping him.

The question is why was there nobody on his route to that position since a toddler could have pointed that spot out as a danger.



Exactly … when you see the aerial layout and the distances involved, it is THE most likely location for a sniper.

Easy shot by even an average shooter …
Elevated platform ….
Clear line of sight ….
Hidden ingress ….

You don’t need to be an Agent in order to prevent this attempt …. it was almost as if they purposefully allowed it to happen ……
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 5:42 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24240 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:21 am to
quote:

Are you able to determine the caliber of that rifle?

Here is a clearer picture of the team that flinched in the video that has been circulating. I can't make out what kind of rifles those are but maybe someone else knows. I would assume it's a decent chance they are all using the same equipment issued from whatever agency employs them.

Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7623 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:38 am to
That is a 50 cal that would explode his head. Also would be able to tell if the guy was circumcised or not with a scope at that distance. I don't see how they explain the delay.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2986 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:45 am to
quote:

Well, let’s see, why did they wait until David Hinkley shot Reagan before jumping to action? I mean hell, Hinkley was right there in plain sight, damn near right in the middle of a bunch of SS agents. With uzis and shite. Yet the guy was able to pump off rounds into the bodies of both Reagan and Brady. I guess they were in on that one too. Oh and basically same situation with RFK. There’s the guy, right there in arm’s reach. Yet there again guy gets off fatal rounds. I’m y’all nicely to please start out at less conspiratorial levels and as the less nefarious possibilities are ruled out, IF they’re ruled out, then fine, move on up to the wildest scenarios you can come up with.


Those two shooters were close range, simply pulled a pistol and shot. No time to react, and honestly the RFK shooting seemed more staged.

This guy was on a rooftop that should’ve been cleared and secured. Eyewitnesses were yelling and pointing him out to police, no one did anything to trigger an alarm to get Trump off the stage.

A video is circulating showing seconds before the shooting a security guy (presumably SS) moving a couple of people out of the way who were behind Trump. Very odd timing.

And two snipers waited until he fired several shots before shooting back?

Sorry, dude, but if you can’t see several weird circumstances all fitting together showing something strange happened here you need to look again.
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