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re: LIVE (*now adjourned*): Supreme Court hearing case on Trump's Colorado ballot eligibility

Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:43 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:43 am to
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now you are just making Murrays case. LOL


I'm not making any case. We're at the "stating facts" portion.
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
4073 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:44 am to
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Sontamayor and Jackson....they're more likely to bend towards partisanship.


I think Jackson is on the side of the good guys in this case.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:44 am to
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Absolutely not the case
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19814 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:44 am to
You wouldn’t vote for Lincoln, TR, Ike or Reagan if they were resurrected by Jesus Christ.
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
4103 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:44 am to
That’s what being a democrat is.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:45 am to
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While the SC *can* do whatever they want in terms of how much rationale and descriptive language they use in the decision, I would imagine some of them can’t wait to slap down the NGO and the CO SOS for their “novel” arguments before the court. To do so, I see them addressing the issues that overlap with federal law and criminal law (how do we determine someone is a insurrectionist).

I think they reverse the decision but the majority opinion does not discuss this in detail, because I think they will rule, as the trial court did, that 14A doesn't apply to the President. That makes the remainder of the discussion moot (although, this is where I imagine concurrences will discuss the issue).
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17502 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:45 am to
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It never gets old to see the mob demand adherence to emotional-rage responses, and anything but that means you support the worst interpretation of their perceived enemy.


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Every single time


That’s hilarious. 4 years you adhered to emotionally-rage that was programmed into you…. Most of the same which you have completely dismissed these past three years… and you respond to that?

All the left has is programmed emotional rage. Notice how the word “xenophobia” has disappeared from the lexicon lately? An example of programming-de programming of emotional rage from you on the left. Switch on…. Switch off. Zero. Absolute zero independent thought.

Yet you try to project that on someone else?

you folks never change.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47624 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:45 am to
I give him and SFP some credit for showing up here to gaslight after that beatdown. if nothing else, they are true and undyingly loyal soldiers for their cause.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47624 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:46 am to
I guess Bill Clinton wasnt a real democrat back in the 90's when his policies sounded a whole lot like Trump's do today?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:46 am to
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I give him and SFP some credit for showing up here to gaslight after that beatdown.

Gaslight?

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if nothing else, they are true and undyingly loyal soldiers for their cause.

...what are you talking about?

I've always said the USSC will overturn the COSC. I have literally never waivered from that position.
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
4073 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:46 am to
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think they reverse the decision but the majority opinion does not discuss this in detail, because I think they will rule, as the trial court did, that 14A doesn't apply to the President. That makes the remainder of the discussion moot (although, this is where I imagine concurrences will discuss the issue).


Fair enough.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157988 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:46 am to
Sorry about this butt kicking you leftists took today.

Sadly it keeps other states from booting Dementia Joe
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4044 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:47 am to
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guilty" and "innocent" are not terms used in civil trials.


Congratulations on being the king of strawmen and non sequitur arguments.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:47 am to
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It never gets old to see the mob demand adherence to emotional-rage responses, and anything but that means you support the worst interpretation of their perceived enemy.
Im convinced some just come here for the rush of being outraged.

Some of same ones giving you grief labeled me a Biden supporter to gen up their outrage level when I suggested Trump maybe isn’t a messiah.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 11:52 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:47 am to
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That’s hilarious. 4 years you adhered to emotionally-rage that was programmed into you…. Most of the same which you have completely dismissed these past three years… and you respond to that?

All the left has is programmed emotional rage. Notice how the word “xenophobia” has disappeared from the lexicon lately? An example of programming-de programming of emotional rage from you on the left. Switch on…. Switch off. Zero. Absolute zero independent thought.

Yet you try to project that on someone else?

you folks never change.


And as usual, you use general arguments that don't apply to me because anyone who doesn't support trump on this board is prog commie filth. Sad....
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:48 am to
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Congratulations on being the king of strawmen and non sequitur arguments.



Um...what?

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In a civil trial dealing with a novel claim, one is guilty until proven innocent?


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No.

"guilty" and "innocent" are not terms used in civil trials.


Shouldn't you be saying that to the other guy?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:49 am to
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Sorry about this butt kicking you leftists took today.



Huh? This case should have never gone this far. Opens a huge can of worms if States started doing this.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139060 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:54 am to
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I think they reverse the decision but the majority opinion does not discuss this in detail, because I think they will rule, as the trial court did, that 14A doesn't apply to the President. That makes the remainder of the discussion moot (although, this is where I imagine concurrences will discuss the issue).
A good case was also made for differentiating running for office vs holding office in application of the 14th. The problem for that narrow a ruling is after Trump is elected, the claim could resurface. Brown went surprisingly hard after the premise that the 14th does not specifically name the POTUS or VP, and she cited the basis for that.

In disagreement with others here, this sounds to me like it could go 9-0. Certainly it should.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:56 am to
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Im convinced some just come here for the rush of being outraged.

Some of same ones giving you grief labeled me a Biden supporter to gen up their outrage level when I suggested Trump maybe isn’t a messiah.

It always happens.

Content creator: creates story/tweet with misleading language intended for priming audience

Echo chamber: spreads the misleading language and accepts it unquestionably as a hive mind, gets angry in response to intended priming

Rational actor: that creator was wrong, and he's manipulating you with that deception so that you get fearful, then angry, and spread his content.

Echo Chamber: YOUR LACK OF RAGE SHOWS YOU ARE A LEFTIST WHO MAY RAPE CHILDREN.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:58 am to
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if nothing else, they are true and undyingly loyal soldiers for their cause.


(D)-hadists.....
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