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re: Listen Live: Supreme Court hears voting rights arguments
Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:24 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:24 pm to cajunangelle
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Kagan: in larger counties black people have to wait in line two hours where others don't have to.
I live in nola and our lines were all the same. They didnt have a special place to vote for whites only. It's all bullshite.
No different than black people dont know how to get an ID. Well we all use the same fricking dmv.
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Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:28 pm to AggieHank86
quote:this is only true to ignorant rubes who believe the lie that certain people don't have accessibility to vote without mail ins. And I'm not referring to absentee ballots that require id. No one should be willing to accept ANY amount of voter fraud. None. The goal should be zero and yes I realize that process is asymptotic
The Left is simply willing to accept a greater risk of "fraud" in order to facilitate easier access to the franchise
quote:otherwise known as LEGAL voting. You know the kind that requires id, chain of custody, etc.
tighten access to the franchise
You try to pass off your bullcrap as being reasonable and moderate when really it's just based on lies and misrepresentation
Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:29 pm to cajunangelle
quote:I wonder whether there is any reliable data or study to support this assertion, because it is counter to my experience.
Kagan: in larger counties black people have to wait in line two hours where others don't have to
I have done some poll watching, and the lines and waiting have generally been LESS in largely-minority precincts, because a smaller percentage of the population seems to be voting.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:43 pm to AggieHank86
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The Left is simply willing to accept a greater risk of "fraud" in order to facilitate easier access to the franchise, whereas the Right is willing to tighten access to the franchise in order to lessen the risk of "fraud."
The left engages in fraud and benefits exclusively.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 1:44 pm to AggieHank86
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I have done some poll watching, and the lines and waiting have generally been LESS in largely-minority precincts, because a smaller percentage of the population seems to be voting.
You are using your racist deductive reasoning.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:15 pm to AggieHank86
quote:I just did some Q&D research on this, because it sounded interesting, and I found an interesting study that modeled "wait time" at polling places based upon system pings from smart phones at the poll addresses.
Kagan: in larger counties black people have to wait in line two hours where others don't have to
The study found that voters in predominantly black neighborhoods waited 29 percent longer, on average, than those in white neighborhoods, but it does not support Kagan's assertion that the wait time is anything like two hours. The average wait time looks like about 20 minutes. If Black neighborhoods are waiting 29% longer, they MAY be waiting an extra 5-6 minutes ... not an extra two hours.
A related study found that much of the increased wait time may arise from people having to stop and complete provisional ballots, because they lacked the proper ID. Each person who completes a provisional ballot tends to slow the line for everyone, and provisional ballots were more common in minority neighborhoods.
As to the 29% "ping" disparity, the very first possible explanation that jumped into my mind was "What time of day were the members of each group trying to vote?"
For instance, if one group was trying to shoehorn all of its voting into the first and/or last hour that the poll was open, one would expect longer "wait time" for them versus a group that is spreading its voting evenly throughout the day.
The article did not even ask this question, so we don't even know whether the 29% disparity has much meaning.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:19 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
The article did not even ask this question, so we don't even know whether the 29% disparity has much meaning.
What's worse, the US Supreme Court Justice thinks that the statistic, without verification or context, is meaningful.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:31 pm to BiteMe2020
I found a PDF of the actual study, as opposed to an article about it.
At page ten, it does confirm larger crowds and longer wait times in the first and last hour at each polling place, but it DOES NOT seem to address whether those longer wait times vary between neighborhoods.
Seriously, this question is so obvious that one must ask whether the researchers WANTED to find or provide an answer to the question.
At page ten, it does confirm larger crowds and longer wait times in the first and last hour at each polling place, but it DOES NOT seem to address whether those longer wait times vary between neighborhoods.
Seriously, this question is so obvious that one must ask whether the researchers WANTED to find or provide an answer to the question.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:37 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
I found a PDF of the actual study, as opposed to an article about it.
At page ten, it does confirm longer wait times in the first and last hour at each polling place, but it DOES NOT seem to address whether those longer wait times vary between neighborhoods.
Seriously, this question is so obvious that one must ask whether the researchers WANTED to find or provide an answer to the question.
There's also the question of staffing at those places. What's the ratio of workers to voters? Machines to voters? So many factors could cause this discrepancy that has nothing to do with racism. Unbelievable.
I thought the question in the case, though, related to voters who didn't want to leave their home because they had no car and "didn't have time".
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:39 pm to BiteMe2020
Agree that Roberts is a coward
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:42 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Seriously, this question is so obvious that one must ask whether the researchers WANTED to find or provide an answer to the question.
Welcome to the world of sociology and soft sciences!
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:43 pm to BiteMe2020
quote:I think the argument is that "the man" intentionally understaffs and under-equips polling places in Black neighborhoods, with the goal of increasing wait times and thus discouraging the Black vote.
There's also the question of staffing at those places. What's the ratio of workers to voters? Machines to voters? So many factors could cause this discrepancy that has nothing to do with racism. Unbelievable.
This argument overlooks that most of the places with the longest wait times seem to be in the major metro areas, controlled by the local Dems.
Perhaps I am just not smart enough to understand why the Harris County Democratic Party would intentionally try to make it harder for Black folks to vote.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 3/2/21 at 2:48 pm to AggieHank86
could be different law school terminology.
ignorance of the law is no excuse is wrong thinking also. Most congressional folks do not read what they are signing to begin with. And most Americans violate laws several times a day without knowing it.
Posted on 3/2/21 at 3:03 pm to cajunangelle
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1% minority voters denied the right to vote.
Well by SCOTUS standards, that's not enough to change any election result so why are they hearing any of this? Thats by their clown world rules
Posted on 3/2/21 at 3:06 pm to cajunangelle
quote:Sotomayor is a low IQ, entitled, privileged racist stooge.
Sotomayor is up. No abridgement can result is equal opportunity to vote.
If you can't vote because you are a native American, a hispanic, because your post office is on the edge of town. You have been denied the right to vote.
She is being down right rude.
She keeps interrupting him without letting him speak
Posted on 3/2/21 at 3:19 pm to L.A.
quote:I agree that Sotomayor is the most-political SCOTUS Justice, and probably the dumbest of the nine ... but that is akin to being the shortest Center in NCAA Division I.
Sotomayor is a low IQ, entitled, privileged racist stooge.
I have little doubt that her IQ is solidly in the second SD above the mean. That hardly makes her a genius, but it does put her in the top 15-20% of the population.
This post was edited on 3/2/21 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 3/3/21 at 7:27 am to dgnx6
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in nola and our lines were all the same. They didnt have a special place to vote for whites only. It's all bullshite.
I live in a rural area that’s 50% black and our lines to vote are the same way.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:22 am to AggieHank86
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Nonsense. Of course the Left understand that these things can happen
Oh, I have no doubt that they understand that mail-in voting is susceptible to massive voter fraud but as I stated they won't "admit" it publicly which is my point. Basically they and you are being intellectually dishonest by not acknowledging that Democrat politicians will never admit publicly that mail-in voting is not secure with no feasible method for voter identification/verification which is a joke anyway because they do not enlist voter identification in blue states with in person voting.
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