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re: Libertarian's job is to give Democrats the wins

Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47445 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:46 pm to
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If only the Republican Party of Georgia nominated an actual conservative. Did you read the article about Hazel's views? He makes Kemp look like a Democrat.



my boy
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:47 pm to
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What have you done?


What I haven't done is contribute to the perpetuation of the problem.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296386 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:48 pm to
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Give me Murkowskis and McConnells and I'm voting 3rd party.



The epitome of RHINO. They cannot be trusted.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:50 pm to
I classify libertarians as never trumpers. Vote again for mama Jo
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25138 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:51 pm to
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I prefer their system. The government can be replaced overnight with a confidence vote.


It does allow smaller groups to form parties that can have serious influence when other parties are trying to form a government. Biden and the demprogs would be booted in quickly.

Here, a lot more has to be done in the primaries or we are in danger of seeing another Ross Perot only helping Bill Clinton become a plurality president.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:53 pm to
So why doesn’t it work?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296386 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:53 pm to
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I classify libertarians as never trumpers


I know a few that voted for him the first time..

Libertarians have so many factions, its like herding cats. They can be all over the spectrum.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296386 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 4:55 pm to
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So why doesn’t it work?

The negative side is some fringe groups can have a lot of power through coalitions.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162680 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:06 pm to
This won't be popular here. And i don't despise Tulsi at all. But watch Tulsi, she was on the WEF up & coming leaders A list team.

She said she isn't sure what letter will be after her name if she runs. She could be bought like the whack lady Marianne and the weird lady that recounted votes for HRC-Jill Stein, (CIA) Putin lover.

Or she could be readying in case it is Buttigieg versus Youngkin Romney lite; or whoever else the big E pushes to the end?
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Htownbayubengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2022
1406 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:09 pm to
Kemp and Walker will both win?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69306 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:10 pm to
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Trump removed the last vestiges of conservatism from that party.


I’m not sure I agree with this at all. Trump’s foreign policy of non-agression, Trump’s tax policies, his regulatory policies, etc were all very conservative.

The only things that were arguably NOT conservative (or less conservative than his Republican predecessors) were his headscratching bump stock ban (Reagan banned assault rifles), his border wall (Reagan signed into law amnesty), and his protective tariffs meant to on-shore critical infrastructure (which turned out to be 100% prophetic as the pandemic triggered a global supply chain crisis that frequently cut American businesses off from international suppliers).
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:13 pm to
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Is she a Republican? It was a simple question you didn't answer.

I apologize for not assuming you’re retarded and need confirmation she’s a Republican. Yes, Murkowski a Republican. Who is the conservative you imagine I’d suggest you not vote for so you could vote for Murkowski?

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WTF does that have to do with Massey?

You’re really confused about this?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35711 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:13 pm to
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They can be all over the spectrum.

In my experience many of them indeed seem to be on the spectrum.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43935 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:13 pm to
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The only candidate that can possibly oppose what the democrats are doing, are republicans.



This is patently false. Republicans complain about the Democrats, but at the end of the day, what do they ever do to fix what's been done? Reverse some executive orders?

Once you realize that Rs and Ds are actually the same party working towards the same goals, you'll understand. They play political theater to keep the masses engaged, but at the end of the day they are all the same. Bigger gov't, less freedom, and less fiscal responsibility. Rinse, wash, repeat.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:14 pm to
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What I haven't done is contribute to the perpetuation of the problem.

The hell you haven’t.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:15 pm to
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Once you realize that Rs and Ds are actually the same party working towards the same goals, you'll understand.

I thought you were a fan of Paul and Massie.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35711 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:17 pm to
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Once you realize that Rs and Ds are actually the same party working towards the same goals, you'll understand. They play political theater to keep the masses engaged, but at the end of the day they are all the same. Bigger gov't, less freedom, and less fiscal responsibility. Rinse, wash, repeat.

And voting for some schmuck with zero chance of competing, thereby allowing “the masses” to have the election to themselves, is definitely the solution.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:17 pm to
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This is patently false. Republicans complain about the Democrats, but at the end of the day, what do they ever do to fix what's been done? Reverse some executive orders?


Has any other party done as much?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296386 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:22 pm to
He drove the mainstream Republican party toward center. I don't even think anyone cares about things like the deficit anymore.

Republicans will embrace a lot of shitty things to move away from the Trump influence.

Its a silly game, just carving out enough voters to win.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 5:26 pm to
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The hell you haven’t.


The two party system and being a slave to some loose sense of political pragmatism over voting for who you think will best represent you is indeed “the problem”. We have a system where a majority of people will demonize you for voting for a candidate they themselves may actually like because it hurts “the cause”.

This two party system is balls man, and I see it as being a reason many people just check out of politics.
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