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re: Liberals, get in here and tell us how Chairman Joe bombing Syria is different
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:53 am to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:53 am to Toomer Deplorable
So in one relatively small respect, he differed, and then went along with the Neo-Con orthodoxy with regard to Iran. That the maximum pressure campaign didn't work, and led to overt actions between Iran and the US, is somehow never in the discussion. That policy made war more likely, yet Trump never gets criticized for it for the blunder that it is.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:53 am to Tmcgin
"Explain to me how you can support Joe Biden bombing Syria"
Bad Orange Man still living rent free I see...
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Tmcgin
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Trump!
Bad Orange Man still living rent free I see...
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:04 pm to crazy4lsu
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The major difference in Washington is how to handle Iran, which Trump bungled badly.
So allowing Iran to get nukes and even fund them with pallets of cash worth $150 billion was the way to go right?
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:06 pm to TS1926
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So allowing Iran to get nukes and even fund them with pallets of cash worth $150 billion was the way to go right?
Nope. You realize there are other ways to go about Iran that are different from either the liberal or Neo-Con orthodoxy?
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:12 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Liberals, get in here and tell us how Chairman Joe bombing Syria is different
We know you dishonest hacks are going to rationalize it.
Let’s hear those excuses!
Nope. We need to get out of the Middle East completely. Said it during Trump and I'll say it now during Biden.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:17 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Any poster here that characterized Trump as some sort of bloodthirsty Fascist better have equal condemnation for Joe Biden as he locks down on these failed wars of permanent occupation.
Why can't you understand that Trump's Nazi bombs are white aggression, and Biden's Democracy bombs will provide equality for underserved communities and POC!


Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:19 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Nope. We need to get out of the Middle East completely. Said it during Trump and I'll say it now during Biden.
One of the few things we agree on.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:21 pm to thebigmuffaletta
If any military force in Syria is launching missiles against US troops standing on Iraqi soil, then, launching a US military attack to destroy those attacking forces is not a problem under any US POTUS Admin.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:22 pm to crazy4lsu
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he differed, and then went along with the Neo-Con orthodoxy with regard to Iran
1. That didnt happen if you define Neo-Con orthodoxy as keeping a simmering war going.
Iran knew he would obliterate their arse, he had proven that, and it all served as a detent that they couldn't do anything at all about...
2. Your "Syrian Warring" misconception, misinformation: He kept a detent with the 2015-16 status quo and NOTHING escalated after he demonstrated that he would fruck up Russians BIGLY if THEY tried to escalate that tenderbox into anything bigger- most lopsided punishment of Russians since early Afghan involvement. Putin entered cooperation and decided to use his American allies, the communist-Democrat-lunatics.
Complicating this whole story was the deep state/media propaganda campaign of "Armenian genocide" - which was not only NOT genocide, but was a CIA op to provide a proverbial food stamp program to the communist Armenians outside of Turkey.
Erdogan distinctly defined that entire scam - Armeians were completely welcome in Turkey and indeed were in Turkish government. The food stamp (and rifles) candidate Armenians were fellow communist anarchists. Erdogan was absolutely right - and he could not get a line in the WaPo or NYTimes...
Both of these situations show the misconception that you attempt to spread here that Trump was NOT peaceful through strength. He was - and we will miss him desperately as the Democrat-Communists go through their usual failure and warmongering.
Hope you [phaggy] Dem-Communists keep enjoying this shiteshow as your daughters get drafted into a regional or major war, as is usually their case...
Fruck Deep State Frucks
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:25 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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1. That didnt happen if you define Neo-Con orthodoxy as keeping a simmering war going.
You don't seem to know the Neo-Con orthodoxy with regard to Iran then.
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Iran knew he would obliterate their arse, he had proven that, and it all served as a detent that they couldn't do anything at all about...
Iran hasn't stopped anything. They still have proxies, are still positioned all over the ME, and are comfortable with the current proxy war situation. That you don't realize the maximum pressure campaign was a failure is indicative that you don't know what you are talking about.
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He kept a detent with the 2015-16 status quo and NOTHING escalated
Overt actions between the USG and the Syrian government started under Trump. That is a massive escalation.
I'm completely anti-war, and always have been. If you don't understand how the Neo-Con orthodoxy with regard to will lead to overt conflict, as it did from the summer of 2019 to the beginning of the pandemic, then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:27 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:another of the infinitely stupid communist moves by communist-dems an they voted repeatedly to cut their noses of to spite their faces - and force failure and misery on the rest of the USA
Nope. We need to get out of the Middle East completely. Said it during Trump and I'll say it now during Biden.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:34 pm to hogcard1964
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Liberals like death. Whether it's through abortions, riots, wars or lack of health care, they have to have it.
Don't forget they also keep the ghettos well stocked with desperate uneducated people so they kill each other as well.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:38 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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And I’ve never claimed that Pompeo was anything but a Deep State puppet. Indeed, Pompeo is State’s ‘Exhibit A’ that a vote in this UniParty® charade is a vote for the left or right wing of the Deep State.

Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:44 pm to hogcard1964
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Liberals like death

Yeah, it's just the liberals. The neocons who started all these wars HATE death.
You're fricking blind
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:45 pm to Tmcgin
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I'm a real republican btw.
When someone has to say this while posting it’s more often than not false.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:19 pm to crazy4lsu
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So in one relatively small respect, he differed, and then went along with the Neo-Con orthodoxy with regard to Iran.
If you want to criticize Trump’s policies toward Iran, grab a ticket and get behind me. But to characterize the ending of “Operation Timber Sycamore” as some minor and insignificant change in foreign policy direction does not comport with reality.
“Timber Sycamore” was the largest and most expensive program in CIA history: the emergence of ISIS and the al-Nusra Front (an al-Qaeda franchise) in Syria were a direct extension of that covert operation. I know you despise Trump but don’t let your hatred of him blind you to reality.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:24 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:than what? The assassination or the airport bombing?
Liberals, get in here and tell us how Chairman Joe bombing Syria is different
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:29 pm to mmcgrath
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than what? The assassination or the airport bombing?
Maograth - deflecting as always.

Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:30 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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“Timber Sycamore” was the largest and most expensive program in CIA history: the emergence of ISIS and the al-Nusra Front (an al-Qaeda franchise) in Syria were a direct extension of that covert operation.
Dismantling that program, and then escalating the situation with overt bombings of the Syrian government, is counter-intuitive. I can say one thing he did was beneficial, and another thing he did was detrimental. It effectively served the same purpose as Timber Sycamore, and ultimately was equally as pointless.
The Iran Neo-Con orthodoxy is a bigger issue for me, because the effects of a shooting war with Iran will be much larger than the SCW, and the SCW was a massive conflict. That he bungled the handling of that, when he had a chance to gain real concessions if he was a skillful diplomat, dampens Trump's entire FP effort.
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