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re: Letter from FDA to physicians on acetaminophen use

Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:56 pm to
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grossly misled in the press conference.
How so? Were there 40 or so studies that looked at pregnancy/tylenol/autism? Of those studies, did 25+ say their was a link between tylenol and autism in children? While 15 or so said their was not?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:56 pm to

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Can some of the experts tell me if John’s Hopkins is reputable?


Not as reputable as the Japanese and Swedish studies posted. Obviously.

It was me Johnny Hopkins and Sloan Kettering. And they were blazing that shite up everyday.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 2:58 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:59 pm to
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Follow up question. How many Pharma studies can be replicated? I’d even accept a rough estimate of percentages.

I don’t know. Definitely less than half due to a variety of factors. By replicated do you mean simply replicated or replicated with similar results?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47551 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:00 pm to
But muh Swedish double-blind, triple random, placebo controlled, Japanese twin sibling, quadruple peer reviewed study?!?!!?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:02 pm to
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How so? Were there 40 or so studies that looked at pregnancy/tylenol/autism? Of those studies, did 25+ say there was a link between tylenol and autism in children? While 15 or so said there was not?

I’ve recently addressed that in this thread. Those 27 studies were highly criticized by the scientific community for not controlling for confounding variables. In other words, they were less than rigorous. Larger more rigorous studies that controlled for confounding variables and had sibling controls showed no association. Those were conveniently left out of the presser
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:08 pm to
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Those 27 studies were highly criticized by the scientific community for not controlling for confounding variables. In other words, they were less than rigorous. Larger more rigorous studies that controlled for confounding variables and had sibling controls showed no association. Those were conveniently left out of the presser
Questions. 1) Do the criticizing scientists happen to get any funding from the drug company? 2) If pregnant women choose to not take tylenol (and tylenol truly doesn't have anything to do with autism) are those women and the babies worse off?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47551 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:08 pm to
Cool. Show us the links where you read that “the scientific community” whoeverthefrick that is, highly criticized all of this research, including studies from Harvard, Cedars-Sinai, Johns Hopkins, and apparently Tylenol itself. And while you’re at it, show us where this community said the remaining studies were somehow more valid.

Until then, we'll imply your bias based on your post history and ignore you accordingly.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 3:41 pm
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:13 pm to
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LSUTANGERINE
"In 2017, Tylenol made a social media post that has recently resurfaced, where it advised a user that it does not recommend its products for pregnant women." Who would know more about the product and its effects, the people that made it or the "scientific community"?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47551 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:21 pm to
stout posted this in the other thread

Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4613 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:22 pm to
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stout posted this in the other thread
Ok
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11844 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:26 pm to
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I like the way you put it "least bad option"... my daughter, when pregnant, was more or less told "if you need something, tylenol is the only safe thing to take when pregnant ". What she heard was "tylenol=safe".
I think I like "least bad" better.


You got it - you sound like a clinician - I like to tell people that there's no risk free decisions (even not taking meds) and we're going to "pick the smallest shark in the tank".
Posted by Tigertown
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2004
488 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:34 pm to
Ironically, your pager analogy shows the very same correlation does not equal causation problem that you refuse to accept.
Posted by Tigertown
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2004
488 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:38 pm to
." Who would know more about the product and its effects, the people that made it or the "scientific community"?

Both are scientists
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5108 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:46 pm to
Trump: Water is wet

Left: No, WAY! Trump is no hydrologist
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5108 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:49 pm to
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scientific community for not controlling for confounding variables. In other words, they were less than rigorous.


But every damn Leftist swallowed every load Anthony Fauci pumped out.

That Mask Science was top notch.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21577 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:58 pm to
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That Mask Science was top notch.


You forget social distancing... three feet? nine feet? six feet? ah, hell, who cares, pick one and say "Science".
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:04 pm to
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Definitely less than half due to a variety of factors.


He says without a hint of self-awareness.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55400 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:08 pm to
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It's all over the web-i-verse, all over the news and people everywhere have JUST become aware of this BECAUSE the Mango Menace dared speak on it.

This is a great point.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:21 pm to
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Questions. 1) Do the criticizing scientists happen to get any funding from the drug company? 2) If pregnant women choose to not take tylenol (and tylenol truly doesn't have anything to do with autism) are those women and the babies worse off?

1 . I don’t think so. . I’m talking about criticisms in the literature mostly.
2 . Of course not.
If there is a need to take, Always be cautious and the least recommended dose and under physician advisement when pregnant. That’s pretty much for any medicine.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 4:26 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:28 pm to
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But every damn Leftist swallowed every load Anthony Fauci pumped out. That Mask Science was top notch.

You’re barking up the wrong tree with me, man. I wasn’t in that group. You can thank Trump for the fast tracking.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 4:33 pm
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