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re: Let's all come clean, why is Trump so despised and hated by some Americans?

Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:39 am to
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:39 am to
He’s a narcissistic egomaniac. Set in his ways and rubs many people the wrong way. Typical douchebag NYC mindset in many ways.

That said, he’s exactly what the US needs moving forward. We need a skull buster no nonsense a-hole to clean this mess up. He’s the perfect mix of someone who these Neanderthal 3rd world shithole leaders will not puss off and these globohomo European soy fricks can’t grift.
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:40 am to
Rather than down vote (which is fine) try to be insightful and reasonable and give an answer to the OP question.....
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:41 am to
Because he's real. No filter. It's also why so many people like him.

Lot of people are used to these prim and proper politicians who are polished and who live behind a facade. Trump will talk shite. He will insult people. He will basically tell people to frick off and clown them. He is as politically incorrect as they come. It's just a shock to a lot of people.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:43 am to
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Stop listening to sound bites and watch some of his policy speeches. He speaks more clearly fiscally from a common sense perspective than any politician in my many decades of life.

It’s very simple. People that watch and believe whats on the news, hate trump or severely dislike him. Those that can see through the agenda driven narratives, conservative news included, start to see the real Trump.



I don’t consume ANY electronic news - no ‘listening to sound bites’, no TV, no radio. I read, and watch what he does. I watched him agree to print money at a staggering rate, and increase the national debt at a staggering rate. Some of the people he surrounded himself with, he’ll maybe most, were unqualified to accomplish what needs to be accomplished, think Haley, Bolton, Sessions, on and on.
Within the past ten days he has made such crazy anti-liberty comments as “people should be paid to have children”. That’s not freedom, that’s pandering.
I voted for him twice, and expect better.

Now let fly with ‘wull he’s bedder than Biden!” No schitt Sherlock, low bar.
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 8:45 am
Posted by coolpapaboze
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:43 am to
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They want more from their leaders. I’ll put it like this. If a politician acts in a way with his temperament that I would not accept from my 9-year old children, then I’m not going to be inclined to vote for him.
I understand what you’re saying and partly agree. I wish trump were more statesman like. But to decry his behavior and ignore the behavior of the political class is hypocritical. They consistently act against the interests of voters and now do so openly. These are not people who conduct themselves with integrity. Sure, they give it lip service but it should be increasingly clear to anyone with a brain that a choice between stoic criminals who frick over voters and the country at every single opportunity or a sloppy loudmouth who actually acts in their interests isn’t a difficult choice. If it is, then we are too far into the doom loop to ever exit.
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:45 am to
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quote:Ok….are Trump’s domestic and foreign policies good for the American people?

You act like people are robots though and that this other stuff won’t matter to them. It does though.


What I'm saying is we have tens of millions of Americans who can't separate policy from personality.....it was hard for me too. I really try to minimize my emotional input into my decision making on major decisions, and who will lead the nation is a major decision.....Trump in general has the correct approach with his domestic and foreign policies.
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:46 am to
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It’s the way he conducts himself honestly. People don’t like it. That’s it. That’s the answer. I’m sure people are going to talk about “my feels” and such, but it doesn’t change the fact that many people find him distasteful and morally reprehensible. They want more from their leaders.


You do realize that Trump is less, or perhaps at least equally, "morally reprehensible" than at least half the Presidents we've had, perhaps more?

I know that the vast majority of Americans are unable to name the last few Presidents, but we KNOW Trump is more "morally upstanding" than at least 2 of the last 3 Democrats. Perhaps all 3.

So, really, it is about "my feels" and such, because it is not based in comparative reality.
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 9:31 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:47 am to
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Let's all come clean, why is Trump so despised and hated by some Americans? by Corinthians420quote:why is Trump so despised and hated by some Americans?

Because some people act like he is some altruistic jesus trying to save us all, when if you do any research at all its pretty hard to miss that everything he doss is to serve his own ego


I will take peace and prosperity even if it feeds Trump's ego.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:48 am to
1. His irrationally aggressive demeanor
2. His ultimate part in reversing RvW
3. Conditioning from coordinated-DEM institutions
4. His cult requiring strict adherence
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 8:49 am
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:49 am to
I think it’s kind of just a sign of the times and he was the winning Republican. They would have hated Jeb too, probably just as much. They will impeach the next Republican president as well, I’m almost certain of it.

The problem is that Trump’s own party failed to protect him. The establishment GOP is more to blame than any democrat. And it’s still the waning support from his own party, even now, that will bring it all down.
Posted by LRB1967
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Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:50 am to
There are some people who vote for a candidate because they like his personality. It doesn't make sense to me. The President is supposed to lead this country. You are not going to have a beer with him.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:50 am to
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Lot of people are used to these prim and proper politicians who are polished and who live behind a facade. Trump will talk shite. He will insult people. He will basically tell people to frick off and clown them. He is as politically incorrect as they come. It's just a shock to a lot of people.


Yes.....this is a product of modern media, like television......the plastic politicians.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:51 am to
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So these people will choose to suffer financially/economically if it possibly means the end of Trump? This ^^^ is the inability to separate personality from policy…..I’m sorry but this behavior in my mind, is absolute mental fragility.


And I see the willingness to overlook his personality as selling out my morals. We just disagree on what we are looking for in a president. You asked though why he is disliked by lots of people. I still believe this is the issue.
Posted by TomShelby
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:52 am to
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1. His irrationally aggressive demeanor



Soyboys #1 complaint. No wonder you have a half million posts on this message board
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:54 am to
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Soyboys #1 complaint.

This isn't my personal complaint.

It's a major reason why many in the middle won't support him, especially female voters in purple and/or suburban areas.

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No wonder you have a half million posts on this message board

Are you so intellectually deficient you can't separate objective discussion about large populations and personal opinions?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:58 am to
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4. His cult requiring strict adherence


Now this ^^^ is exactly how tens of millions of Americans support cultural Marxism.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 8:59 am to
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I’ll put it like this. If a politician acts in a way with his temperament that I would not accept from my 9-year old children, then I’m not going to be inclined to vote for him.


So did you vote for Joe Biden?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:00 am to
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Now this ^^^ is exactly how tens of millions of Americans support cultural Marxism.


Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:00 am to
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What I'm saying is we have tens of millions of Americans who can't separate policy from personality


Of course you do. Humans are emotional creatures. That gets back to my robot comment. The vast majority of people don’t want to remove emotion and personality from this decision. You can say they are wrong, but it isn’t going to change anything.

At the end of the day, Trump is wrong with the way he acts. Forget the moral aspect or any of that. Look at it purely from a political aspect. The voters don’t like his personality, and they reject it. You have to present yourself in a package that people want to buy as a candidate. If you don’t, it’s not the voters fault. It’s yours.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:02 am to
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So did you vote for Joe Biden?


I did, and he hasn’t been great. It doesn’t change the fact of how I feel about Trump. I still would not vote for Trump. Would I vote for Biden again? I don’t know. I do know I would not vote for Trump.
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