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re: Legally, can Trump/Barr do anything about mail-in ballots?

Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:44 pm to
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States vary on what happens next, but voting experts say all states have checks in place to avoid voters casting two votes
It's already happened.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39918 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:45 pm to
No but the Federal Courts can. 5th Circuit just shot down Democrat attempts to mass mail ballots in Texas. If under 65, and you didn't request an Absentee Ballot, your not legally entitled to receive a mass mailed ballot.
Posted by MurraytheDivot
Member since Sep 2020
47 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:47 pm to
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BTW, you've been an awfully active little alter-boy....

Whose alter are you?


Alter? No. Great poster and contributor? Yes.

Now excuse me while I get back to work.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2386 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:52 pm to
Are mail in ballots secret?
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9541 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:53 pm to
Simple really. On October 30 freeze all USPS Gas card funding and Accounts for gas. Mail doesn't run for two weeks, should be good enough.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79931 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:54 pm to
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States vary on what happens next, but voting experts say all states have checks in place to avoid voters casting two votes
Then how did 1000 people vote twice in Georgia?
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In some states, a poll worker may be able to void the mailed ballot if the voter prefers to vote in person. In other states, the voter may be given a provisional ballot and election officials will determine if the provisional ballot should be counted
So it admits that a person can submit a mail-in ballot then show up to vote. Who am I supposed to trust that the mail-in ballot will be destroyed??? Are we supposed to believe that they will follow those rules in Broward County or Philadelphia? Where are the mail-in ballots kept, at the voting precinct to be destroyed at the time the person signs in?

How much do the rules vary from state to state?

Again, how did 1000 voters vote twice in Georgia?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:55 pm to
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Fuchs said that poll workers’ errors probably led to some of the instances of double ballots. Typically, when a voter shows up to vote in person, the poll worker checks the poll book to see if the voter has requested an absentee ballot or has received one. If so, the worker is supposed to call the county elections headquarters to cancel the person’s mail ballot, and then can allow the voter to cast a ballot in person.


From the Washington Post
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90554 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:57 pm to
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probably led to some
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13621 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:59 pm to
You cannot stop someone from voting absentee two days before the election then voting in person on election day and having both votes count.

You can only prosecute after the damage has been done.

If the Democrats win that State there will no prosecution.

Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13621 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:59 pm to
Georgia was a test balloon.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:04 pm to
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You find the actual fraud, toss out those ballots, and prosecute those responsible. That's how it works.



frick you

10's of millions of ballots will overwhelm anybody trying to find all the cheats and you know it.

You do not care. You would accept known cheating where you saw it with your own eyes if that is the only way for Trump to lose.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5751 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:06 pm to
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You find the actual fraud, toss out those ballots, and prosecute those responsible. That's how it works.

Democrats remove the ability to prevent and detect fraud and when none is found (because it cant be) they claim it doesnt exist. That's how that works.

"Find the fraud".

No voter ID. No verification system for mail in ballots. No updating voter registration roles.

"That's how it works". Yep
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:06 pm to
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gthog61


Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35924 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:07 pm to
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If the Democrats win that State there will no prosecution.


Soros DAs about to go to work...Turing a blind eye.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90554 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:08 pm to
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You do not care. You would accept known cheating where you saw it with your own eyes if that is the only way for Trump to lose.
Fact.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:09 pm to
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You cannot stop someone from voting absentee two days before the election then voting in person on election day and having both votes count.


Sure you can. Here's how California is doing it.

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Voting at a Polling Place after Applying to Vote by Mail

Even if you receive your vote-by-mail ballot, you can change your mind and vote at a polling place on Election Day. To do so, you can:

Mark your ballot and seal it inside the mailing envelope provided by your county elections official. Be sure to sign and date the outside of the envelope in the space provided. Then bring the sealed envelope to any polling place in your county, or to your county elections office between 7:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. on Election Day.
OR
Bring your unused vote-by-mail ballot to your local polling place anytime between 7:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. on Election Day and give it to a poll worker, who will exchange it for a polling place ballot you can use instead.

If you do not bring your vote-by-mail ballot with you, you will not lose your opportunity to vote at a polling place on Election Day. A poll worker will provide you with a provisional ballot, which will be counted after your county elections official has confirmed you are registered to vote in that county and did not vote more than once in that election.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37270 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:09 pm to
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Legally, can Trump/Barr do anything about mail-in ballots?


Short answer is no. The states get to conduct their own elections.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37270 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:10 pm to
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1,000 people doubled up.. out of nearly 2 million?

The horror... 0.05%


That's not the correct response when the last election was decided by a smaller percentage of votes across 4 states in the Midwest.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90554 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Voting at a Polling Place after Applying to Vote by Mail
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Bring your unused vote-by-mail ballot
Um yeah about that.
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If you do not bring your vote-by-mail ballot with you, you will not lose your opportunity to vote at a polling place on Election Day. A poll worker will provide you with a provisional ballot, which will be counted after your county elections official has confirmed you are registered to vote in that county and did not vote more than once in that election.
Now do that 1,000s of times.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79931 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 2:25 pm to
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If so, the worker is supposed to call the county elections headquarters to cancel the person’s mail ballot, and then can allow the voter to cast a ballot in person
I appreciate your answer but I have no faith that this will happen.
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