re: Left-Wing News Hired Hitman Charged W/ 2nd Degree Murder Of Patriot

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You say shite like this on purpose.

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Yes he does. Completely de-humanizes a father and a grandfather who was baited and ambushed.

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You are REALLY emotional on this one.

Hank: Dolloff was a clown and a poser.
Wolf: Why do you hate Keltner?????

I am emotional because a father and grandfather was stalked and murdered for a story line that is part of a political process. And you blithely treat it like it is some casual, nuanced chat. At least show a degree of respect towards the deceased. Anyone with any degree of tactical training knows that Dolloff did not hotdog. You do not choose a situation like that to take chances. He carefully and methodically chose a technique that was high risk but high payoff. That is not done by someone who is not trained and prepared. You are simply too ignorant to understand the ramifications of his technique and actions.

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I am emotional because a father and grandfather was stalked and murdered for a story line that is part of a political process. And you blithely treat it like it is some casual, nuanced chat

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I did not know him and I do not know his family. His death is unfortunate, but it has no emotional impact on me whatsoever.

At the same time, the larger issues are important, and I want to discuss them objectively. I will not be rending my clothing in every post about the death of someone I did not know.

Feel free to disagree, but I see a headshot in that situation as hotdogging. As others have said, someone properly trained and NOT hotdogging would have aimed center-mass. Hotdog or not, Dolloff had some skill, and he employed it in a (perhaps subconscious) desire to showcase those skills.

Do you have any doubt whatsoever that he practiced headshots on the target at the range, usually preceded by his Quick Draw McGraw routine?

(Flats, you got a bit rhetorical, but you understood the point)

The problem is all this misses the point. In order to make the shot he made in the short amount of time between draw to fire, he had to have intent to aim at the head from the moment he drew. He did not decide at the last moment to aim to kill- he decided to aim to kill when he decided to draw the weapon, and at that point there was no justification for deadly force. Keltner was not reaching for anything or raising an arm with a spray can and Dolloff had already decided to aim for his head.

That is the point of bringing it up- not to admire his ability.

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The perhaps most damning aspect is the headshot and he only fired one round.

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I don't think so.

Dollof was trained, immediately dropped the threat (and I am 100% Team Keltner, but any objective look at this gives Dollof, although the instigator and possibly pre-planned, a presumption of Keltner being a threat) and scanned for more threats.

The "not only 1 shot, unload into center mass" thing is for amateurs.

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The problem is all this misses the point. In order to make the shot he made in the short amount of time between draw to fire, he had to have intent to aim at the head from the moment he drew. He did not decide at the last moment to aim to kill- he decided to aim to kill when he decided to draw the weapon

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I do not disagree.

With enough quick-draw repetitions at the range and at home in front of the mirror, it may even have been muscle-memory to aim for the head after the draw. If you have that level of confidence in your skill, it certainly seems the shot most likely to IMMEDIATELY incapacitate your opponent.

None of that means that he drew the weapon with the specific intent of firing it (no matter what), as opposed to having it ready should it be needed.

Everyone here is utterly convinced that Dolloff really, really wanted to kill Keltner. I am not convinced.

If the political affiliations were reversed, I would hold EXACTLY the same opinion. I doubt that the same could be said of more than a few percentage points of the posters who have opined on the matter here.

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The "not only 1 shot, unload into center mass" thing is for amateurs.

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Two to the chest and move on.

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None of that means that he drew the weapon with the specific intent of firing it

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If he has had training as you say then he best have upholstered it with the intent to use it. You don't draw your piece otherwise.

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Flats, you got a bit rhetorical, but you understood the point

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The points you typically make aren't difficult to understand.

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Yet you were the only poster who did so.