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re: Left-Wing News Hired Hitman Charged W/ 2nd Degree Murder Of Patriot

Posted on 10/11/20 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 6:26 pm to
9 news still has the pinkerton story up on their website.

Posted by td01241
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 6:27 pm to
I’ll admit I didn’t even know Pinkertons were still a thing but you’d think if he wasn’t one they’d want to distance themselves from this ASAP. It seems pretty clear he wasn’t unless they hire unlicensed people.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 6:28 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 6:34 pm to
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 6:38 pm
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 6:42 pm to
Can’t find Pinkerton on twitter to see if they said anything.

ETA: found it. No statement
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 6:44 pm to
I have not seen anything anywhere yet from them.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 8:07 pm to
Dolloff Arms LLC has an issue.

Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 8:32 pm to
All of them are going to have problems as 9 News claims they hired this guy through Pinkerton and have yet to retract their statement. I would also think that if Pinkerton were totally in the clear on this that they would have already released a statement if Dollof was not an employee.
Posted by mrgreenpants
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 8:57 pm to
Slowed it down a bit


Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 8:57 pm to
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Did he have a concealed carry license?



Going to go out on an easy limb here and say he didn't have shite. I could have called the "no security guard license" on page 1 and there's No. fricking. Way. a company like Pinkerton would have this guy on the payroll without a copy and proof of license.

As I said in my 2nd post on this topic, dude was straight up Antifa looking for a reason to shoot.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:05 pm to
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Slowed it down a bit
Appreciate the work. Does not change the outcome. Transitioned immediately to deadly force. Victims hands were by his side while the assailant was reaching for his weapon. Not a good shoot.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:08 pm to
I still don’t get why he didn’t brandish his weapon and use the threat of force as a deterrent.
Posted by UcobiaA
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:11 pm to
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I still don’t get why he didn’t brandish his weapon and use the threat of force as a deterrent.


That isn't legal in some states, not sure about Colorado. Brandishing is considered an armed threat.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:13 pm to
The victim is still alive and he’s not going down for murder. If he truly felt the in fear of his life it appears he could’ve at least issued a verbal warning or a warning shot.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:15 pm to
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I still don’t get why he didn’t brandish his weapon and use the threat of force as a deterrent.
There was no need to brandish his weapon. There was no deadly threat. I am now of the opinion the “security guard” took it upon himself to take the mace away from the victim and he refused.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:15 pm to
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warning shot


ETA: He is going down for murder. The only question is to what degree.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 9:16 pm
Posted by UcobiaA
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

The victim is still alive and he’s not going down for murder. If he truly felt the in fear of his life it appears he could’ve at least issued a verbal warning or a warning shot.


No such thing as a warning shot. Civilian and military are entirely different.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:20 pm to
Yeah I suppose I’m looking at this from a military perspective but any kind of deescalation of force training or school of thought isn’t gonna give that shoot a pass imo.
Posted by UcobiaA
The Gump
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

I am now of the opinion the “security guard” took it upon himself to take the mace away from the victim and he refused.


Sounds pretty plausible. Then when he got slapped he got pissed and figured he'd just kill the guy.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:24 pm to
They’re trying to figure out how many people get fired, who lied, what can they say that straddles journalistic integrity and legal liability. They’re likely fricked both ways.
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