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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:18 am to VolSquatch
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:18 am to VolSquatch
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I have a hard time believing that they are on the brink of any kind of collapse with demands being MUCH more hardline than they were in 2022
Yep. Putin holds the cards and he knows it.
With Europe beginning to re-arm, he also knows this is his last chance to do a land grab like this. Russia won’t stop unless they receive significant concessions
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:27 am to GeauxBurrow312
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With Europe beginning to re-arm, he also knows this is his last chance to do a land grab like this. Russia won’t stop unless they receive significant concessions
I think what Ukraine is doing right now is smart... waging war on Russia's ability to wage war. I also think had they done that in a more concentrated way sooner they would be in a much better spot.
Counterattack? Didn't work.
Long range strikes and a few assassinations meant to grab headlines and embarrass Russia? Didn't work.
Now they are doing something that can actually be effective. Is it too late? Hopefully not.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:39 am to VolSquatch
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I also think had they done that in a more concentrated way sooner they would be in a much better spot.
They were begging to do it. But Biden wouldn't let them.
Or Ron Klain or Jeff Zients or whomever was actually running the country while Biden was napping
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:39 am to AU86
They don't want it now but it's hard to say based on the first offensive operations of the war that it wasn't a goal at the beginning. Most likely a secondary and a well let's just see if we can pull it off goal but still a goal.
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 8:44 am
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:43 am to VolSquatch
They aren't on any type of collapse because to Putin and Russia in general only way a collapse can happen if with the complete destruction of the Russian state. The way most people think especially in the west is if a war is hurting your people more than victory would help them then it's time to stop the war and reach an agreement. Seems Putin's way of thinking is I don't care if it all goes to shite I'm getting what I want in Ukraine.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:46 am to LARancher1991
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They aren't on any type of collapse because to Putin and Russia in general only way a collapse can happen if with the complete destruction of the Russian state. The way most people think especially in the west is if a war is hurting your people more than victory would help them then it's time to stop the war and reach an agreement. Seems Putin's way of thinking is I don't care if it all goes to shite I'm getting what I want in Ukraine.
Yes culturally they have a very different outlook on casualties than western countries. China would undoubtedly be the same way in a conflict. People are a resource to be used there.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:49 am to GeauxBurrow312
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Russia still publicly states it wants only 5 oblasts. If they offer that, along with a guarantee of no NATO, Russia will be forced to make the deal. China wouldn’t let them say no
That’s not what they said as recently as last month.
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On June 20, Vladimir Putin revealed that his ambition to annex all of Ukraine had not abated.
“I have said many times that the Russian and Ukrainian people are one nation, in fact. In this sense, all of Ukraine is ours,” he declared at a media conference to mark the opening of the Saint Petersburg Economic Forum on Friday, June 20.
Of course he could be posturing for negotiating purposes, but Ttump is upset with Putin for a reason, and it’s not because Putin is negotiating in good faith.
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:52 am to VolSquatch
Yea, that's why comparing this to the US in Vietnam doesn't really work. There haven't really been any mass protests in Russia like the US in Vietnam. Also I highly doubt the Russian people are getting as much information on the war like we were in Vietnam.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:55 am to GeauxBurrow312
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Yep. Putin holds the cards and he knows it.
I believe Putin over played his hand.
Trump is upset now, Europe is rearming, Ukraine. isn’t caving and the muddy season is starting.
Throw in the success Trump is having with these trade deals and it’s becoming apparent that Russia is getting left behind.
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 8:58 am
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:01 am to VolSquatch
In Stalin's first speech to the Soviet people after Germany invaded he called them friends, brothers and comrades. Stalin had never used those terms before. That was deliberate. When he used those terms and called for them to come together, sacrifice and defend the motherland that struck home. Many of those people had family members violated by Stalin and the NKVD. Killed or sent to Gulags, but that was set aside to defend the motherland. They responded by the millions.
Putin has sold this to the people as an existential war for the motherland. A war of survival. Does that matter today? Who knows? But as long as Putin is offering the money that he is those poor Russian boys are going to sign up. He is having no problems getting recruits.
Putin has sold this to the people as an existential war for the motherland. A war of survival. Does that matter today? Who knows? But as long as Putin is offering the money that he is those poor Russian boys are going to sign up. He is having no problems getting recruits.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:03 am to doubleb
Russia got left behind by the US in the 1950s
China started to pass them in the 1990s
It’s a has been empire with a dying population. Ukraine helps them maintain an ethnically white and Christian population for a few more years. It’s not a bad gambit by Putin. Sacrifice a couple million to add tens of millions
And most of the Russian dead are undesirables. The prisoners, ethnic minorities, poor etc.
China started to pass them in the 1990s
It’s a has been empire with a dying population. Ukraine helps them maintain an ethnically white and Christian population for a few more years. It’s not a bad gambit by Putin. Sacrifice a couple million to add tens of millions
And most of the Russian dead are undesirables. The prisoners, ethnic minorities, poor etc.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:08 am to GeauxBurrow312
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Russia got left behind by the US in the 1950s
Yes, but Russia had gained on Europe, they had them by the balls as far as energy goes. They were moving away ftom the US.
They baa a caked Iran and Syria. Looked what happened there.
Russian influence in the world has waned, but of course the US is far ahead.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:10 am to GeauxBurrow312
Russia has actually stated for awhile that if they have to end this militarily they will take 8 oblasts.
They will take Novorossiya.
They will take Novorossiya.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:10 am to doubleb
As discussed before, this is a very good deal for Ukraine. Getting paid with Russian money is the cherry on this cake.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:13 am to AU86
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Putin has sold this to the people as an existential war for the motherland. A war of survival. Does that matter today? Who knows? But as long as Putin is offering the money that he is those poor Russian boys are going to sign up. He is having no problems getting recruits.
Russian recruiting down 80% this year.
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The number of Russians signing up to fight in Ukraine at Moscow recruitment centers have dropped 80% over the last six months, according to a new report.
However, they are signing up a lot of mercs, but those are people sacrificing for the motherland.
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This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 9:15 am
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:15 am to cypher
UPDATE:Eleven people, including a child, have been killed in a Russian combined attack on the city of Kyiv on the night of 30-31 July, and 135 people have been injured.
Death toll from Russian strike on Kyiv rises to 8, including child, 124 injured
Iryna Balachuk — Thursday, 31 July 2025, 13:13
Rescue operation ongoing at the scene. Photo: State Emergency Service of Ukraine
Eight people, including a child, have been killed in a Russian combined attack on the city of Kyiv on the night of 30-31 July, and 124 people have been injured.
Source: Tymur Tkachenko, Head of Kyiv City Military Administration, on Telegram; State Emergency Service on Facebook
Quote from Tkachenko: "As of now, emergency services have confirmed six fatalities. Four of them were in the Sviatoshynskyi district and two in the Solomianskyi district. A six-year-old boy was among those killed."
Details: Tkachenko added that the search and rescue operation is ongoing.
Updated: After 11:00, Tkachenko reported that seven people had been killed in the Russian nighttime attack on Kyiv.
It has also been reported earlier that rescue workers had recovered a man from the rubble. He has sustained injuries, but he is alive.
Updated: Tkachenko stated at around 12:00 that the number of injured in Kyiv had reached eight.
"In the Sviatoshynskyi district, a Russian missile demolished a house, and the body of a man was retrieved from the debris near the entrance. Six people have already lost their lives as a result of the attack on this building, and eight people have been killed in Kyiv overall," he reported.
The State Emergency Service reported that as of 12:40, 64 people had been injured in this attack, of whom 10 are children.
Search and rescue operations are ongoing.
At 13:05, Tkachenko reported that 124 people had been injured in the Russian attack.
Ukrainska Pravda.
Death toll from Russian strike on Kyiv rises to 8, including child, 124 injured
Iryna Balachuk — Thursday, 31 July 2025, 13:13
Rescue operation ongoing at the scene. Photo: State Emergency Service of Ukraine
Eight people, including a child, have been killed in a Russian combined attack on the city of Kyiv on the night of 30-31 July, and 124 people have been injured.
Source: Tymur Tkachenko, Head of Kyiv City Military Administration, on Telegram; State Emergency Service on Facebook
Quote from Tkachenko: "As of now, emergency services have confirmed six fatalities. Four of them were in the Sviatoshynskyi district and two in the Solomianskyi district. A six-year-old boy was among those killed."
Details: Tkachenko added that the search and rescue operation is ongoing.
Updated: After 11:00, Tkachenko reported that seven people had been killed in the Russian nighttime attack on Kyiv.
It has also been reported earlier that rescue workers had recovered a man from the rubble. He has sustained injuries, but he is alive.
Updated: Tkachenko stated at around 12:00 that the number of injured in Kyiv had reached eight.
"In the Sviatoshynskyi district, a Russian missile demolished a house, and the body of a man was retrieved from the debris near the entrance. Six people have already lost their lives as a result of the attack on this building, and eight people have been killed in Kyiv overall," he reported.
The State Emergency Service reported that as of 12:40, 64 people had been injured in this attack, of whom 10 are children.
Search and rescue operations are ongoing.
At 13:05, Tkachenko reported that 124 people had been injured in the Russian attack.
Ukrainska Pravda.
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 10:51 am
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:19 am to doubleb
I have seen reports for months stating that Russia is recruiting up to 30,000 per month. Is that true, who knows?
But I would believe that as easily as I would believe anything coming out of the west. It is all propaganda. Both sides lie. You can't believe anything coming out from either side regarding that war. The western governments will lie to it's population just as quickly as Russia's will lie to theirs.
If you do you are a gullible and naive fool.
But I would believe that as easily as I would believe anything coming out of the west. It is all propaganda. Both sides lie. You can't believe anything coming out from either side regarding that war. The western governments will lie to it's population just as quickly as Russia's will lie to theirs.
If you do you are a gullible and naive fool.
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 9:25 am
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:19 am to cypher
Zelenskyy promptly signs law on reinstating independence of Ukraine’s key anti-corruption bodies
STANISLAV POHORILOV — Thursday, 31 July 2025, 15:09
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has signed into law the bill reinstating previously revoked guarantees of independence for the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) and Specialised Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO) less than two hours after it passed in the Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament).
Source: Zelenskyy on Telegram
Quote: "I want to thank all the MPs for adopting my draft law – now officially a law. I have just signed the document, and it will be published immediately. These are guarantees for the proper, independent functioning of our anti-corruption agencies and all law enforcement bodies in our country. It’s the right decision. A total of 331 MPs voted in favour of it – exactly as needed, both as a basis and as a whole."
Details: The president noted that "it is very important that the state listens to public opinion". "Ukraine is a democracy – there is no doubt about it. Government officials will also immediately inform Ukraine’s partners about this law," Zelenskyy said.
Ukrainska Pravda
STANISLAV POHORILOV — Thursday, 31 July 2025, 15:09
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has signed into law the bill reinstating previously revoked guarantees of independence for the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) and Specialised Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO) less than two hours after it passed in the Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament).
Source: Zelenskyy on Telegram
Quote: "I want to thank all the MPs for adopting my draft law – now officially a law. I have just signed the document, and it will be published immediately. These are guarantees for the proper, independent functioning of our anti-corruption agencies and all law enforcement bodies in our country. It’s the right decision. A total of 331 MPs voted in favour of it – exactly as needed, both as a basis and as a whole."
Details: The president noted that "it is very important that the state listens to public opinion". "Ukraine is a democracy – there is no doubt about it. Government officials will also immediately inform Ukraine’s partners about this law," Zelenskyy said.
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:23 am to AU86
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I have seen reports for months stating that Russia is recruiting up to 30,000 per month. Is that true, who knows?
But I would believe that as easily as I would believe anything coming out of the west. It is all propaganda. Both sides lie. You can't believe anything coming out from either side regarding that war.
If you do you are a gullible and naive fool.
I know Ukraine started a recruitment drive to try to get younger recruits to sign up and fight in February. By May, fewer than 500 had signed up. They were offering a $24000 sign up bonus and an almost $3000 per month salary.
LINK
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:27 am to VolSquatch
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They were offering a $24000 sign up bonus and an almost $3000 per month salary.
Guess who is paying for that?
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