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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:59 pm to Chromdome35
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:59 pm to Chromdome35
I haven’t seen where Russia has recruited and trained more troops than they are losing.
I have read more Koreans are coming.
My question is where are the extra troops to man this northern front comjng ftom?
Belarus? N Korea? Raw recruits?
I have read more Koreans are coming.
My question is where are the extra troops to man this northern front comjng ftom?
Belarus? N Korea? Raw recruits?
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:01 pm to texag7
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Your wet dream of wanting Russia to invade Poland is not going to happen
They already did and the Poles owe ‘em.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:22 pm to doubleb
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My question is where are the extra troops to man this northern front comjng ftom?
The mobilization that it is increasing clear Russia is preparing to start
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:37 pm to VolSquatch
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The mobilization that it is increasing clear Russia is preparing to start
So tight now there is no immediate threat.
Russia has to mobilize first. Then they have to train and outfit these troops. Officers need to be chose, etc.
Next question, how quick could all of that happen?
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:43 pm to Chromdome35
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The last time Russia attacked from this direction Ukraine stopped them cold, partially because Russia was forced to stick to the roads and avoid the muddy fields in the spring. Now if they do it at the start of winter instead of the end of winter, they should have more viable routes available.
1. If they start at the beginning of winter visability might be better but manueverability will be nil - try driving a tank built in the 1960's or whatever through that mud, or sending untrained troops through it. They aren't going anywhere.
2. What will happen is the same thing that always happens since the advent of the mine. Ukraine will mine the fields thoroughly, forcing the Russians to stay on the road. They then pre-plot artillery coordinates and combine that with the use of modern drones to funnel the Russians into kill boxes for easy pickings. This will - again - lead to massive Russian casualties with nothing substantial to show for it. The Ukrainians have been doing this successfully for four years now, no need to stop doing it.
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Can Ukraine's drones stop a major invasion from the North? I don't see how Ukraine can deploy the same manpower levels it did in the opening months of the war.
Most likely. Russia has similar problems with manpower and worse problems and challenges with logistics and lacks any maneuver capabilities. Expect a wash-rinse-repeat on Russian tactics and a return to the Kilo-a-day gains that everyone on this board seems to be so enamored with but is slowly killing all that Russia has to offer.
Expect to be having these same discussions a year from now:
"THe RUsSiaNs arE rEAalYl SEriOuS This tIMe YaLl!!!...."
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:49 pm to texag7
This thread has seen a lot of poor quality posters, congrats on being the worst.
All Hat, No Cattle!
All Hat, No Cattle!
Posted on 8/27/26 at 2:56 pm to doubleb
I've commented several times about the troubles any large mobilization is going to cause Russia and I still believe those concerns are correct.
That said, even with the expected challenges, Russia will get more men on the front lines with a major mobilization, If Russia chooses to put those troops in the North and have them attack from that vector, can Ukraine move enough combat power to that area to repulse the attack? Maybe, maybe not. It is certainly not a given that Ukraine could.
It is also not certain that Russia could pull it off. No one should underestimate the threat that a large Russian attack from the north would pose to Ukraine at this stage.
That said, even with the expected challenges, Russia will get more men on the front lines with a major mobilization, If Russia chooses to put those troops in the North and have them attack from that vector, can Ukraine move enough combat power to that area to repulse the attack? Maybe, maybe not. It is certainly not a given that Ukraine could.
It is also not certain that Russia could pull it off. No one should underestimate the threat that a large Russian attack from the north would pose to Ukraine at this stage.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:03 pm to Chromdome35
I don’t disagree at all.
My two questions are how fast will the mobilization happen and how effective would all those green troops be.
You’d be foolish to think they wont make a difference. How big is the question.
My two questions are how fast will the mobilization happen and how effective would all those green troops be.
You’d be foolish to think they wont make a difference. How big is the question.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:33 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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a main defensive line was built from the Kiev Reservoir (north of Kiev) to Sumy earlier this year.
And west of the Kiev Reservoir are the Pripyat marshes and Chernobyl. The Pripyat marshes gave the Germans fits in operation Barbarossa, and in 2022 Ukraine flooded the marshes and gave the Russian column headed towards Kiev a huge problem. It turned into a turkey shoot.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:36 pm to doubleb
Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:57 pm to Chromdome35
The Russians thinking they can win this war on the ground is fantasy. But that's where they've been since the very start. So if Russia makes a major attack in the north, even they must know it can't succeed militarily. But they could be looking at two other factors that could be to their advantage.
First, as a great deal of logistics supporting the flank of this campaign would have to be directed through Belarus, it would force the Ukrainians to attack targets in that country. Would that force Minsk to finally come into this war in direct support of Russia? Well, that would be the hope.
More importantly, it would cause another long-term manpower drain on the Ukrainians. This is where Russia has a significant advantage and they know it. In a war of attrition, the longer it lasts the better Russia's chances. They still truly believe that Ukraine's European supporters will finally tire of this war and start to separate themselves from Kyiv. Not a good bet at all, but that's clearly their goal. If a northern front will accelerate this plan, then it will get more than serious consideration.
Of course, the limiting factor on any long term plans will be the state of the Russian economy. That is getting far worse far faster than any projected collapse of Ukrainian manpower or EU support. So forget about EU support, just think of what happens when they can no longer pay the Chinese.
First, as a great deal of logistics supporting the flank of this campaign would have to be directed through Belarus, it would force the Ukrainians to attack targets in that country. Would that force Minsk to finally come into this war in direct support of Russia? Well, that would be the hope.
More importantly, it would cause another long-term manpower drain on the Ukrainians. This is where Russia has a significant advantage and they know it. In a war of attrition, the longer it lasts the better Russia's chances. They still truly believe that Ukraine's European supporters will finally tire of this war and start to separate themselves from Kyiv. Not a good bet at all, but that's clearly their goal. If a northern front will accelerate this plan, then it will get more than serious consideration.
Of course, the limiting factor on any long term plans will be the state of the Russian economy. That is getting far worse far faster than any projected collapse of Ukrainian manpower or EU support. So forget about EU support, just think of what happens when they can no longer pay the Chinese.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 4:56 pm to doubleb
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So tight now there is no immediate threat.
Russia has to mobilize first. Then they have to train and outfit these troops. Officers need to be chose, etc.
Next question, how quick could all of that happen?
They'd have to mass troops wouldn't they? Seems like sitting ducks for long range artillery . JDAMNS and drones taking out bridges and rail lines and logistics hubs, etc.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 5:10 pm to bigjoe1
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They'd have to mass troops wouldn't they? Seems like sitting ducks for long range artillery . JDAMNS and drones taking out bridges and rail lines and logistics hubs, etc.
They would have to mass them as they onboarded into the army, mass them in training, and mass them at the front. There will be a lot of opportunity for strikes by Ukraine.
If I'm Ukraine, I'm thinking every Russian recruit I can kill before he gets to the battlefield is a win.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 5:12 pm to Chromdome35
Start blowing up railroad tracks
Posted on 8/27/26 at 5:23 pm to doubleb
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Russia has to mobilize first. Then they have to train and outfit these troops. Officers need to be chose, etc.
Putin says two weeks of training are enough.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 5:32 pm to Chromdome35
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They would have to mass them as they onboarded into the army, mass them in training, and mass them at the front. There will be a lot of opportunity for strikes by Ukraine.
If I'm Ukraine, I'm thinking every Russian recruit I can kill before he gets to the battlefield is a win.
It depends on how much it costs to kill a Russian recruit though. Monetarily and from an opportunity cost perspective. I don't think Ukraine has stockpiles of Russian killing widgets just waiting around, they would presumably have to take from the active front and use it at the new one. And that's pretty much what Russia wants if they do intend to open another one.
That doesn't mean I'm saying they shouldn't do it or that it can't be successful, it just depends on where these masses of troops are, how many are in close proximity at a time (like on a train), and what weapon system it takes to kill them.
I have a hard time believing they can do any kind of mobilization in time to take advantage of that winter ground even if they started today, but maybe I'm wrong. If they did move a large number of people in that time Ukraine would have plenty of body rich targets. It would have to be very gradual.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 5:46 pm to Chromdome35
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This thread has seen a lot of poor quality posters, congrats on being the worst.
All Hat, No Cattle!
Texag may have ridden the short bus to school, but I don't think that the Trinidad guy went to school at all.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 5:53 pm to VolSquatch
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I have a hard time believing they can do any kind of mobilization in time to take advantage of that winter ground even if they started today,
I'm with you. Everyday that passes makes it less likely that it will happen in 2026. Six weeks ago, a mobilization looked likely, but it doesn't look so likely right now. Lots of people are underestimating the difficulty of the kind of mobilization that's being discussed. The previous mobilization was largely reactivating former military personnel. The new units didn't need long training periods, because so many of the mobilized had prior military experience to draw on. There aren't any more of those guys to mobilize.
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