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Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:08 am to cypher
‘I already know the answer’ — Trump to shorten Ukraine deadline for Putin to 10–12 days
July 28, 2025 3:14 pm
Editor's note: This story was updated with comments made by U.S. President Donald Trump.
U.S. President Donald Trump said on July 28 that he aims to shorten the 50-day deadline he had set to Russian President Vladimir Putin for a peace deal in Ukraine, expressing disappointment with the Kremlin leader.
The U.S. president was referring to his July 14 warning that Washington would impose up to 100% in secondary tariffs on Russia unless Moscow agreed to a peace deal in Ukraine within the next 50 days.
"We thought we had that settled numerous times, and then President Putin goes out and starts launching rockets into some city like Kyiv and kills a lot of people in a nursing home or whatever," Trump said alongside U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer at the Turnberry golf club in Scotland.
"So we are going to have to look, and I am going to reduce that 50 days that I gave him to a lesser number because I think I already know the answer — what is going to happen."
Trump said he now plans to impose a 10- to 12-day deadline starting July 28. "There's no reason in waiting," he said. "It's 50 days, I wanted to be generous, but we just don't see any progress being made."
The Kyiv Independent
July 28, 2025 3:14 pm
Editor's note: This story was updated with comments made by U.S. President Donald Trump.
U.S. President Donald Trump said on July 28 that he aims to shorten the 50-day deadline he had set to Russian President Vladimir Putin for a peace deal in Ukraine, expressing disappointment with the Kremlin leader.
The U.S. president was referring to his July 14 warning that Washington would impose up to 100% in secondary tariffs on Russia unless Moscow agreed to a peace deal in Ukraine within the next 50 days.
"We thought we had that settled numerous times, and then President Putin goes out and starts launching rockets into some city like Kyiv and kills a lot of people in a nursing home or whatever," Trump said alongside U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer at the Turnberry golf club in Scotland.
"So we are going to have to look, and I am going to reduce that 50 days that I gave him to a lesser number because I think I already know the answer — what is going to happen."
Trump said he now plans to impose a 10- to 12-day deadline starting July 28. "There's no reason in waiting," he said. "It's 50 days, I wanted to be generous, but we just don't see any progress being made."
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:10 am to doubleb
I love it when posters get mad that I take their own points to their logical conclusion
It mattered then. It doesn't matter now any more than anything else that is happened since then.
This focus on "Russia had more territory then" is just some weird deflection/delusion that you cultists keep telling yourselves so you can LARP about Ukraine winning.
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Early events in wars matter. Morale matters. allied matter, and above all killing your enemy matters. 2022 was key for Ukraine.
It mattered then. It doesn't matter now any more than anything else that is happened since then.
This focus on "Russia had more territory then" is just some weird deflection/delusion that you cultists keep telling yourselves so you can LARP about Ukraine winning.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 9:11 am
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:12 am to CitizenK
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If you disagree with him then per him you are a liar.
No, doubleb isn't a liar. Just you,
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:14 am to cypher
Strange that you stopped posting stories from the Kyiv Independent for a short time when they came out to blast Z and his actions regarding the anti corruption agencies. But now you are posting their stories again.
Hmmmmm?
Hmmmmm?
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:23 am to AU86
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I have never seen anything quite like it. They are Ukraine Firsters. If it wouldn't Russia you probably would not see the passion. When you combine the boomer cold war hate for the Soviet Union with the leftist hatred for Russia that developed after their once darling Soviet Union (you may be aware of the love for the Soviets from leftists in the 60's/70's.) fell you have quite strange bed fellows. Russia has been made into the ultimate boogie man for the left in part by the lies and criminal actions of Obama and his group of criminals, the MSM and neocons through the Russia hoax. That treasonous action is being brought to light now. Obama will escape but Brennan, Clapper, Comey, HRC and the rest should die in prison for their actions.
I think we have turned our world into this black and white, good or bad, oppressed vs oppressor centric world instead of seeing people on a spectrum.
Russia is unequivocally bad. But they aren't a cartoon supervillain either. But since they are in the 'bad' camp (and let me be clear, they are in that camp no question) they must be stopped and opposed no matter the cost.
You also see the opposite for the "good" camp... they must be supported no matter what. I'm on a Civil War kick currently so I'll give President Grant as an example... he had some objectively good moral stances and initiatives as President, and because of those you're seeing revisionist historians try to paint him as a good President when he objectively wasn't.
Its effectively seeing the world in binary. We might as well all be robots like Cope and Cypher I guess.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:26 am to AU86
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What did the founding fathers say about foreign wars and entangling ourselves with foreign treaties? Ever read Washington's farewell speech?
Why say death cult? Ukraine wants to fight. Foreign intervention is how the British were defeated, along with Foreign MONEY. First the French fleet then French and Dutch money.
i swear the younger generation politards are soyboys to the max.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:27 am to AU86
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I have never seen anything quite like it. They are Ukraine Firsters
Wrong
I put America first and putting America first includes hoping Russia fails to rebuild its empire and eventually becomes less imperialistic and less combative with the US.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:35 am to VolSquatch
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You also see the opposite for the "good" camp... they must be supported no matter what. I'm on a Civil War kick currently so I'll give President Grant as an example... he had some objectively good moral stances and initiatives as President, and because of those you're seeing revisionist historians try to paint him as a good President when he objectively wasn't.
Grant's administration was one of the most corrupt in US history. It was scandalous. Grant's problem was his corrupt friends/cronies. Nothing but thieves and swindlers.
I have done a lot of work with the NPS over the last 25 years on Civil War sites/battlefields and the amount of wokeness/revisionism that I have witnessed is sickening. 90+% of the Park Rangers now fall into this category. They now have an agenda.
The.modern day history revisionists make me sick. They have no principles. Many of them just go along with the current revisionist theme and do not oppose it or rock the boat because of financial considerations. They want to be in with the current theme crowd because they want to sell books/make money.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 9:39 am
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:40 am to Coeur du Tigre
Russia is now close to completing its encirclement of Pokrovsk and Myrnohrad. FIghting is currently ongoing on the outskirts of Rodynske just north of Myrnohrad.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:41 am to AU86
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Grant's administration was one of the most corrupt in US history. It was scandalous. Grant's problem was his corrupt friends/cronies. Nothing but thieves and swindlers.
Well and that's kind of what you would expect from a General turned politician. He ran the war effort well, but dealing with politicians and being an administrator in that sense is a different skillset. We didn't have statesmen generals at that point, and you could argue at an institutional level we never did or even tried to. I think he was a good man for the most part, but a bad President.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:47 am to VolSquatch
When Andrew Johnson said that he was going to arrest and try Confederate leaders like Lee and Longstreet Grant went to him and put his finger in his face and threatened to resign if he violated the terms Lincoln and Grant has given at Appomattox. Johnson backed down.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 9:49 am
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:48 am to CitizenK
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Foreign intervention is how the British were defeated, along with Foreign MONEY. First the French fleet then French and Dutch money.
The British treated the American revolution as more of a peripheral conflict than the existential battle that it was for us. They didn't even really take it all that seriously until it was too late, and by then it was a global conflict and they had other more economically important areas to defend than the colonies. In fact it was more embarrassing than it was existential for them.
People will compare it to China and Taiwan's seemingly inevitable conflict, or even the war with Russia and Ukraine, but its really not anywhere close to that. Ukraine is more important to Russia, and Taiwan to China, than the US colonies were to Britain.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:53 am to CitizenK
Again what did George Washington say in his fareweel speech?
What did Eisenhower warn us about in his farewell speech?
Two great men that loved their country.
Neither were neocon Bush types. The LBJ and Bush types have damaged this country with their foreign adventures.
What did Eisenhower warn us about in his farewell speech?
Two great men that loved their country.
Neither were neocon Bush types. The LBJ and Bush types have damaged this country with their foreign adventures.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 9:56 am
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:55 am to doubleb
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less combative with the US.
Since 1991 no Russians have killed any US troops in combat.
The US killed Wagner mercenaries in an air strike in Syria in 2018, but no members of the actual Russian military.
The US was one of Russia's largest trade partners until 2014.
Russian action against Ukraine isn't being combative toward the US. Its being combative toward Ukraine.
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Russia fails to rebuild its empire
This is a fantasy. Russia doesn't expect to do this (no matter what bullshittery they put on their TV networks). And even if they did, they were incapable even before 2022. The US would crush them within months even without NATO.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:03 am to LARancher1991
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Russia is now close to completing its encirclement of Pokrovsk and Myrnohrad. FIghting is currently ongoing on the outskirts of Rodynske just north of Myrnohrad.
Pokrovsk is a key defensive point, but Russia has been trying to take it for about a year now. It’s cost them massive casualties so far.
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Russian forces have been trying to capture Pokrovsk for almost a year, staging one grinding offensive after another. But despite having a clear advantage in terms of the number of troops and weapons available, Moscow has failed to take over the city.
CNN Late June
Things are still hot as Russian efforts to take Pokrovsk before the muddy season are in full force.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:08 am to VolSquatch
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The US was one of Russia's largest trade partners until 2014.
If Putin wasn't dreaming of being Peter the Great part 2, they still would be and they'd be a whole lot better off.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:13 am to LARancher1991
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:13 am to Auburn1968
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If Putin wasn't dreaming of being Peter the Great part 2, they still would be and they'd be a whole lot better off.
Agreed on the latter
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:14 am to doubleb
I think the main difference here than in previous assaults on cities (like Bakhmut) is Russia will not try to take the city directly. Seems like they are going for an encirclement of both cities. I think if this is what they are doing one of two things will happen. The encirclement will be completed and Ukranian troops will be bombed or starved out, or Ukraine troops will fall back to avoid encirclement.
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This provides a relatively active map to support the evidence of this strategy.
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This provides a relatively active map to support the evidence of this strategy.
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