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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:42 pm to
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:22 pm to
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Please explain what you mean.


The other floating roofs are on empty tanks. There are several pumping stations on a pipeline. Pressure drops due friction in the line and has to be boosted.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:03 pm to
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Pressure drops due friction in the line and has to be boosted.

And pressure is maintained and increased only through the use of oil from these storage tanks. That is indeed normal practice. No storage tanks, no pumping. Which is the purpose of the attacks.
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:06 pm to
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Satellite footage published by Exilenova confirms: a recent strike on Russia’s Tuapse refinery and tank farm destroyed 4 of 4 tanks, each believed to hold 20,000 m³, removing about 80,000 m³ of oil or petroleum products. The hydrocracking and hydrotreating zones were also hit, damaging processing depth and product quality. A previously damaged pumping station burned out completely, disrupting internal transfer logistics.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:56 pm to
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Zelensky has responded to Putin. Ukraine is announcing a ceasefire regime starting May 6. And if Russia does not join, it will respond in kind. Essentially, Zelensky is putting Putin before a choice. If he wants silence on May 9, then he must agree to Kyiv's terms. Or immediately head toward confrontation, giving the Armed Forces of Ukraine a pretext for strikes whenever they want.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 3:33 pm to
Pressure from the tanks is minimal and measured in water column.

Pressure is boosted via pumps. The pumps would have manifolds and not in a small building.

This is not some municipal water tank

Have you ever seen a pumping station?
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 7:11 pm to
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Zelensky is putting Putin before a choice.


It isn't a choice, it is a dilemma. Putin now has to make a decision between two undesirable options. Always seek to give your enemy dilemmas, not choices.

Strikes on oil, internet shutdowns, air defence failures over Moscow... oh my.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 3:22 am to
CitizenK -

You keep camoflaging your original statement with non-related self evident points. Here's what you said, which is clearly erroneous -
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Floating roof tanks.

Not needed during normal operations.

As you and everyone else knows, these pumps don't pull the oil from upstream stations. They are only able to push it downstream. When a slowdown or stop occurs in pumping due to lack of upstream pressure or parcel separation, the oil in the storage tanks is used to resume pumping.

Yes, head pressure from the tanks helps start / increase the pumping without gasification in the line and maintains this feed pressure throughout operation.

Thus, again, these tanks are most certainly needed during normal operations. The pumps can't work without them. Which I'm sure is what you meant to say.
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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 3:24 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 3:25 am to
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 3:34 am to
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And that's a firm "No Comment" on the design concept:



Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 3:37 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 3:39 am to
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Zelensky has responded to Putin. Ukraine is announcing a ceasefire regime starting May 6.

“…especially since Russia’s Defense Ministry believes it cannot hold a parade in Moscow without Ukraine’s goodwill.” - Zelensky.





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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 4:00 am to
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European intelligence reports on the risk of a coup in Russia with the participation of Shoigu, — CNN.

Since the beginning of March, the Kremlin and Putin have been extremely concerned about leaks of sensitive information and the threat of conspiracy.

After the elimination of Lieutenant General Fanil Sarvarov in December 2025, the “security forces” began to massively accuse each other of security failures. Currently, the Kremlin has increased security not only for Gerasimov, but also for ten other key generals.



And right on time...



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Russian media report that Colonel General Stanislav Petrov, former commander of the Russian Armed Forces' Radiological, Chemical, and Biological Defense Troops, was found shot dead in Moscow. A pistol was discovered next to his body. In recent years, Petrov served as a chief researcher in a department specializing in chemical warfare agents - a unit linked to the poisoning of Alexei Navalny.


This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 9:23 am
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 4:16 am to
Have you ever been to one? I don't think so. A terminal where feeder pipelines and/or trucks bring in crude do. A pipeline with refined products will have tank terminals along the way to receive products for that area, some have a distillation column to separate transmix, as in were batches of products blend with another batch, such as gasoline with diesel.

Try harder.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:14 am to
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Have you ever been to one? I don't think so. A terminal where feeder pipelines and/or trucks bring in crude do. A pipeline with refined products will have tank terminals along the way to receive products for that area, some have a distillation column to separate transmix, as in were batches of products blend with another batch, such as gasoline with diesel.

Are you going to cut and paste an entire Wikipedia article? What has this got to do with your original post? -

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Floating roof tanks.

Not needed during normal operations.

Look, I get that you don't like my posts. I'll lose about 0.005 seconds of sleep over that tonight. But don't react with some absolute bullshite and expect me to overlook it.

And yes, I've spent many, many years going to these places. If anyone wants to discuss the pitfalls of volume quantification in floating roof tanks, I'm your guy.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:26 am to
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Are you going to cut and paste an entire Wikipedia article?


The absolute irony here
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:30 am to
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