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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:17 pm to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:17 pm to
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Meanwhile we isolate Russia and let them turn to China and India


If they have other places to go to we aren't really isolating them, are we?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:20 pm to
The majority of India still shits in the street and has to be paid not to do so. The caste system has produced a lot of imbeciles with physical mutations. Sure there are upper castes which are high IQ but not the vast majority.

While the plant had Union Carbide's sign on it, India was calling the shots (partnership with the government) and why the Bhopal disaster. Same stuff (MIC) was made by Union Carbide in West Virginia.without any issues.

Two biz friends have been to India, one to look at chemical processes with 100's of barefoot Indians walking around in acid spills. Another to have equipment fabricated there. If a company is run by Europeans, it's a well run fabrication company. If it's run by Indians, usually sloppy work and corners are cut.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:25 pm to
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No one is going to be able to hold Russia together post-Putin... and possibly not even Putin himself in the near future.

Kadyrov is on his deathbed and then who knows what happens in Chechnya... and once that kicks off, Georgia will rebel... and then...


There seems to be a lot of conditionals in your thinking here and in other comments. Individual pieces are certainly possible, but if you were to lay out your thinking in one long post I think you'd see that youre almost describing a "we are down 14 with 30 seconds left, we just have to hit a hail Mary, get an onside kick, and then hit another hail Mary and THEN maybe we win in overtime".
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:27 pm to
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Russia can never trust China... and neither of them can ever trust India.


The situation a few of you are describing would mean a Russia doesn't have a choice. And when Russia doesn't have a choice, China now has an interest in keeping them in their orbit.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3946 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:55 pm to
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I really hope you understand why Afghanistan is a bad comparison, and not even a real example if we get down to it.


For the Soviet Union? It was a country right next door... and actually the democratically-elected Communist Afghan government asked them to "invade" it... to stop the insurgent campaign to overthrow the government. So that's different... maybe...
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3946 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:24 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3946 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:47 pm to
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Exactly why I believe that Putin ultimately wants a long-standing economic & geopolitical alliance with the United States.

He sees the writing on the wall.


He wants that if an American President is subservient to him. Which it seems like he's gotten at the moment.

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When it comes down to it: Russians are a hell of a lot more compatible with us then China on so many levels


If you mean "Ethnic Russians in Western Russia," slightly... Russia is also full of a LOT of Muslims and Mongols and people who are ethnically descended from Chinese. There are over 190 different Ethnic groups in Russia... and the great majority of them are not very "Western” and nothing at all like Americans in culture or anything else.

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and China will ultimately go after Russia’s land/resources if given the opportunity.


Yes... Russia isn't stupid enough not to know this... but what can they do?

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China is smart and has been taking full opportunity of our geopolitical stupidity that was not bringing Russia into the fold after the fall of the USSR.


Now this isn't accurate... we tried with Yeltsin, but his corruption (and aggression against regions that wanted Independence) kind of slowed things down...

Putin dashed those hopes quickly when he took over.

Clinton sized him up as a thug and a threat to be careful with... even telling Yeltsin immediately after meeting Putin "This guy you've picked to take over... he does not have Democracy in his heart."

W Bush took longer to figure him out:

Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3946 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:14 am to
This idea that the US can lure Putin away from China... or that Russia has been driven to have to partner with China because of anybody else forget that

Moscow and Beijing declared a "no limits partnership" weeks before Putin ordered Russia's Ukraine offensive in February 2022.


NBC News: Russia and China forge closer ties as U.S. is preoccupied with struggles at home

One defied diplomatic boycotts over its human rights record and welcomed the world to its first Winter Olympics. The other massed troops on its neighbor’s border and issued demands to the United States and its allies.

Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin stood side by side during the opening ceremony of the Beijing Winter Olympics this month. Their joint appearance delivered not only the most forthright display of Sino-Russian unity in decades, but also what observers saw as the clearest signal yet that the two are intent on shaping a new world order — one in which America’s postwar global dominance is in retreat and autocratic regimes can thrive in the space left behind

...

Since at least 2008, government officials and intellectual elites in China and Russia have been predicting or advocating the end of America’s postwar dominance. But a 5,000-word joint statement on Feb. 4 was the first time these countries have together spelled out their vision so comprehensively for this “multipolar” future.

“A trend has emerged towards redistribution of power in the world,” the statement said. This “new era” will “ensure peace, stability and sustainable development,” it added, rather than the “power politics” and “bullying” of U.S. supremacy where “the weak fall prey to the strong.”.

...


(it's hard not to laugh at the bullshite of that bolded part)

Crucially, the end of American dominance would stop the West from trying to “interfere in the internal affairs of other states, infringing their legitimate rights and interests,” the statement said, repeating a long-standing complaint used to push back against Western calls for democratic, legal and economic reforms.

...


They are team anti-Democracy... they're not partners as a result of the invasion of Ukraine... the invasion of Ukraine happened because they became partners.

They were both emboldened by Trump's negative attitude towards NATO, and Biden's bungling of the (horribly-negotiated by Trump) withdrawal from Afghanistan...

After the Iraq War, it was obvious Americans had lost the stomach for military operations... and Putin and XI both saw this as an opportunity to promote Autocracy as a superior alternative to Democracy.

It seems like it's working liking a charm IN the U.S.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:34 am to
Exceptionally good video of tonight's strike on another refinery.

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Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5648 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 6:39 am to
terrorism update...A Russian drone strike hit a kindergarten in Kharkiv. 48 children reached the basement just before the strike.


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This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 6:58 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:19 am to
More evidence of what Putin is all about.
Trump’s wife sees it, why can’t he see it?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:34 am to
Did you attend the No Kangs Protest this past Saturday?

Is Ukraine and Z helping to pay for the Big Beautiful Royal Ballroom?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15692 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:01 am to
I'm pretty sure that this refinery is for supplying the local market. That is already an unstable region.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3946 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:55 am to
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There seems to be a lot of conditionals in your thinking here


Can you say there are no conditionals in the world at the moment?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:48 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:55 am to
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Can you say there are no conditionals in the world at the moment?



Conditional situations existing, and "If this happens this might happen, which would maybe cause this to happen, which might cause this other thing to happen" are completely different things
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 10:56 am
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:56 am to
A very brief history of the most awkward Russian flash point in crude animation.

Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2245 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:56 am to
LINK

Seems Russia is trying to make a big push. Ukraine still holding the majority of Pokrovsk and still some parts of Kupiansk.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:03 am to
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Russia has made sweeping advances in recent days that threaten to outweigh the gains made by Ukraine in its cross-border attack into the Kursk region.
Russian forces are just a few kilometres from the Ukrainian city of Pokrovsk, a crucial logistics hub used by the Ukrainian military. Home to a key railway station and major roads,
Pokrovsk is an essential supply and reinforcement point for Ukraine’s troops on the eastern front line. Critics in Kyiv fear that the country's military has made a serious miscalculation.
By sending troops into Kursk instead of reinforcing the eastern frontline, the military has left Pokrovsk and other important Ukrainian towns exposed, these critics say.


That quote was cut and pasted from a BBC article dated 8/31/24 BBC
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15692 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:31 am to
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Pokrovsk is an essential supply and reinforcement point for Ukraine’s troops on the eastern front line. Critics in Kyiv fear that the country's military has made a serious miscalculation.


With those areas already occupied by Russia, that strategic value is a moot point other than to Russia.
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