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Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:01 pm to CitizenK
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Russians are paying $9 per gal.
FACTS matter
Facts do matter and you consistently don't have any facts. You consistently tell outrageous lies just like you did above. Gas is no where close to $9 per gallon in Russia. Per Grok below
"No, Russians are not generally paying $9 per gallon for gasoline. As of September 2025, the average official price for gasoline in Russia is around RUB 63.78 per liter (approximately $0.76 per liter), which converts to about $2.88 per gallon based on a standard U.S. gallon of 3.785 liters.
Other sources confirm similar figures, with August 2025 averages at $0.79 per liter (around $3 per gallon) and slight variations by fuel grade, such as AI-92 at $0.79 per liter or AI-95 at $0.89 per liter."
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:09 pm to LSURussian
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Your source for that post is "Geroman" which is how Russians pronounce "Heroman" when speaking Russian.
As far as Geroman claiming to quote The Economist, I have absolutely zero confidence it would accurately quote anything from any source.
It lies as much as you do, Ivan.
That's not an Economist tweet, it seems to be a screen cap of a headline...
The Economist is paywalled, so who could read the article to see what it actually says without a subscription?
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:10 pm to Lee B
Well, this article is free (for now), so here it is...
https://www.economist.com/europe/2025/09/23/ukraine-faces-deepening-military-political-and-economic-problems
https://www.economist.com/europe/2025/09/23/ukraine-faces-deepening-military-political-and-economic-problems
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:13 pm to Lee B
just the beginning for click-shy folks...
TWO YEARS ago this newspaper outlined a vision of a “Ukraine 2.0”, led by reformers in government and citizens outside. We acknowledged that it had little hope of recovering its lost territory, at least as long as Vladimir Putin remains in the Kremlin. But if Ukraine could emerge secure, democratic and prosperous even within a shrunken frontier, that would be a form of victory. Today, the country is struggling on all of those counts. Ukraine is clearly surviving, but it is gradually being hollowed out and losing room for manoeuvre.“We can fight for years, losing positions slowly,” says one senior official. “But the question is why?”
Take the situation on the ground first. Compared with what might have happened, it remains impressive. Three and a half years in, Russia has failed militarily, even if Ukraine is bleeding, too. Mr Putin has not even managed to overrun Kharkiv, just 35km from the border, let alone Kyiv. The flow of goods through Ukraine’s deep-sea ports surpasses pre-war volumes. Russia’s warships have taken refuge in distant Novorossiysk, shut out of the Black Sea by Ukraine’s naval drones.
The front lines have not shifted significantly since November 2022. Fighting continues for the small city of Pokrovsk (pre-war population: 60,000) in the Donbas, for instance, well over a year after it began. At least a million Russian troops have died or been wounded. Ukrainian innovation has meanwhile turned the front lines into a jungle of drones; any movement in a 40km “grey zone” is a gamble with death. Ukraine can maintain this kind of defence for a long time.
Ukraine stands because its people insisted on it. Much of the country’s security backbone grew independently of a weak state, and often despite it. Parallel networks of society, business and soldiers patched gaps left by a defence ministry insiders call “the chaos ministry”. World-leading drone companies began in spare rooms and garages. “When the bureaucracy stalls, small structures create what the country needs,” says an intelligence officer.
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TWO YEARS ago this newspaper outlined a vision of a “Ukraine 2.0”, led by reformers in government and citizens outside. We acknowledged that it had little hope of recovering its lost territory, at least as long as Vladimir Putin remains in the Kremlin. But if Ukraine could emerge secure, democratic and prosperous even within a shrunken frontier, that would be a form of victory. Today, the country is struggling on all of those counts. Ukraine is clearly surviving, but it is gradually being hollowed out and losing room for manoeuvre.“We can fight for years, losing positions slowly,” says one senior official. “But the question is why?”
Take the situation on the ground first. Compared with what might have happened, it remains impressive. Three and a half years in, Russia has failed militarily, even if Ukraine is bleeding, too. Mr Putin has not even managed to overrun Kharkiv, just 35km from the border, let alone Kyiv. The flow of goods through Ukraine’s deep-sea ports surpasses pre-war volumes. Russia’s warships have taken refuge in distant Novorossiysk, shut out of the Black Sea by Ukraine’s naval drones.
The front lines have not shifted significantly since November 2022. Fighting continues for the small city of Pokrovsk (pre-war population: 60,000) in the Donbas, for instance, well over a year after it began. At least a million Russian troops have died or been wounded. Ukrainian innovation has meanwhile turned the front lines into a jungle of drones; any movement in a 40km “grey zone” is a gamble with death. Ukraine can maintain this kind of defence for a long time.
Ukraine stands because its people insisted on it. Much of the country’s security backbone grew independently of a weak state, and often despite it. Parallel networks of society, business and soldiers patched gaps left by a defence ministry insiders call “the chaos ministry”. World-leading drone companies began in spare rooms and garages. “When the bureaucracy stalls, small structures create what the country needs,” says an intelligence officer.
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:25 pm to Lee B
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Take the situation on the ground first. Compared with what might have happened, it remains impressive. Three and a half years in, Russia has failed militarily, even if Ukraine is bleeding, too. Mr Putin has not even managed to overrun Kharkiv, just 35km from the border, let alone Kyiv. The flow of goods through Ukraine’s deep-sea ports surpasses pre-war volumes. Russia’s warships have taken refuge in distant Novorossiysk, shut out of the Black Sea by Ukraine’s naval drones
quote] At least a million Russian troops have died or been wounded. [/quote]
Thanks Lee. We know this info is solid. It’s from the Economist, and even Barron cites it as being factual.
Take the situation on the ground first. Compared with what might have happened, it remains impressive. Three and a half years in, Russia has failed militarily, even if Ukraine is bleeding, too. Mr Putin has not even managed to overrun Kharkiv, just 35km from the border, let alone Kyiv. The flow of goods through Ukraine’s deep-sea ports surpasses pre-war volumes. Russia’s warships have taken refuge in distant Novorossiysk, shut out of the Black Sea by Ukraine’s naval drones
quote] At least a million Russian troops have died or been wounded. [/quote]
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Ukraine can maintain this kind of defence for a long time.
Thanks Lee. We know this info is solid. It’s from the Economist, and even Barron cites it as being factual.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:37 pm to doubleb
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Ukraine can maintain this kind of defence for a long time.
Incorrect. Ukraine is desperate for manpower, kidnapping people off the streets. That is not defense. We are already seeing multiple cracks not to mention Ukraine had to withdraw from Kursk in a matter of weeks. That type of collapse can happen anywhere along the frontlines as the pressure starts to build.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:39 pm to John Barron
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Incorrect
So the Economist is not correct now? What happened?
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:54 pm to John Barron
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Incorrect. Ukraine is desperate for manpower, kidnapping people off the streets. That is not defense. We are already seeing multiple cracks not to mention Ukraine had to withdraw from Kursk in a matter of weeks. That type of collapse can happen anywhere along the frontlines as the pressure starts to build.
I think Ukraine will eventually hit a manpower wall and we are already starting to see some cracks, but they do have the under 25 year old group to tap into. The issue there is that if Ukraine taps into it they know they are potentially mortgaging their future, and so does Russia. But we are approaching the beginning of year 4 of this war, people not previously in that bracket have aged into it and birth rates are declining. Ukraine is at .98 births per woman according to UN statistics. Replacement rate is 2.1, for reference. Russia is at 1.4 something, the US is at 1.6. Not that those numbers are likely to ever impact recruitment.... this war will be well over by then.... Ukraine just can't afford to tap into that younger bracket.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:00 pm to John Barron
It was $5 per gallon at end of August.
I have caught Grok in so many bad answers it's unreal. I have heard it uses Reddit for most of its data, but I really don't care.
I have caught Grok in so many bad answers it's unreal. I have heard it uses Reddit for most of its data, but I really don't care.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:05 pm to CitizenK
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It was $5 per gallon at end of August
No it wasn't. It was $2.88. It was never close to $5 gallon or $9 gallon like you falsely claimed. You make shite up and then claim your source is a business associate or some NAFO troll on Twitter.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:06 pm to CitizenK
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:07 pm to John Barron
quote:You're clueless about what an "official price" is in Russia. Hint: It's NOT the actual price...
the average official price for gasoline in Russia
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Drone Strikes Mean Russians Pay $9 A Gallon For Gas, If There Is Any
According to Russian official statistics, gas is now at an average of $2.66 per gallon. Nobody believes those statistics, which show a rise of almost 3% in the last month.
The real figure for the average is undoubtedly significantly higher, but it is starting to be irrelevant. Because gas is getting harder to find.
Fuel queues are growing, and gas is often only available on the black market with prices now reportedly reaching $9 a gallon.
Forbes - September 15, 2025
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:13 pm to LSURussian
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Fuel queues are growing, and gas is often only available on the black market with prices now reportedly reaching $9 a gallon.
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This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:25 pm to John Barron
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Chay Bowes @BowesChay
Chay Bowes describes himself as a "Moscow based Irish Journalist" on his X account.
Do you realize how quickly he would fall out of a sky-scraper window if he didn't spread the government's propaganda but instead reported the truth??
You have zero credibility.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:26 pm to cypher
fuel shortage has been reported for a while...
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:32 pm to LSURussian
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Chay Bowes
That is a video from today of 10 different gas stations with no lines and no black market price of $9 gallon like your BS Globalist Forbes Rag claimed.
Video Evidence of Proof vs Made up Stories
LSURussian Response: Chad is a Irish Journalist based in Moscow! While ignoring the actual video evidence
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:41 pm to cypher
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fuel shortage has been reported for a while...
It been reported by NAFO trolls and BS propaganda news organizations. If it was true you would actually see 100s of videos like you do in regards to Ukraine Kidnapping their Citizens to fight in the War. A video of today showing 10 different gas stations in Russia without any lines or $9 prices.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:48 pm to doubleb
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quote:
Incorrect
So the Economist is not correct now? What happened?
I know... this is the article that "he posted," after all...
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:49 pm to cypher
White smoke so no product lines were hit. As to damage to the pier (jetty or quay if not American) I cannot say
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 4:51 pm
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