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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:30 pm to
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Incorrect. The Economist Article Tweet is on this page 225. I will post it again for you since you are incapable of telling the truth


So why do you link Geroman and not the Economist?
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:32 pm to
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So is Ukraine

Not according to Trump. He said explicitly yesterday that Ukraine was getting stronger as Russia fell deeper into crisis.

Trump hates to be on the losing side of anything. He sees intelligence reports that maybe 10 other people in the world have access to. He simply knows more about this than you do.


Y'all can't just selectively believe Trump and use him to back up your points when it suits you

I think its pretty clear both sides are bloodied and hobbled, or "weaker" perhaps you'd say.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:33 pm to
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Incorrect. The Economist Article Tweet
Your source for that post is "Geroman" which is how Russians pronounce "Heroman" when speaking Russian.

As far as Geroman claiming to quote The Economist, I have absolutely zero confidence it would accurately quote anything from any source.

It lies as much as you do, Ivan.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:34 pm to
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Nothing of substance Putin has told Trump has turned out to be true. Zelensky has at least been honest with him, even when Trump didn't like it. And now that Zelensky, who has smartly put any problems with Trump in the past for the good of his country, is willing to work with Trump and is openly offering him good will and financial incentives, Trump seems to be re-evaluating his position.

Seems like the smart play to me, VolSquatch. Trump would be a fool if he didn't at least explore other options.


As long as it doesn't cost US taxpayer dollars I'm perfectly fine with that
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:53 pm to
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Y'all can't just selectively believe Trump and use him to back up your points when it suits you

Actually, that is exactly how arguments and debate work. So, yeah. We can

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think its pretty clear both sides are bloodied and hobbled, or "weaker"

Ukraine's army is at least 3x the size it was at the end of 2021. And it is now one of the leading cutting edge arms manufacturers in all of Europe. It cant pump out the raw tonnage that Russia can. But it has developed its own cruise missiles, anti tank missiles, rocket propelled artillery, short range ballistic missiles. It's now one of the world's leading manufacturers of drones, autonomous marine systems, and other technology.

It even makes some of these systems in such quantities that it is exporting surplus on the open market. Ukraine is so far ahead of us in drone development and production that it is licensing technology and production to the US military.

It also has about 1 million men under the age of 25 still in the country that it can draft into service, but hasn't needed to yet.

Ukraine is far stronger than it was when this war started.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:02 pm to
"Russians With Attitude" and "Big Serge" (i.e., "Sergei") are the latest Russian propaganda website you've used, Ivan.

FYI, Saint Sergius of Radonezh, a village in the Moscow oblast, (1320-1392), is the most famous of Russian Orthodox's saints, thus popularizing the name Sergei in Russia.

But, nooooooo, you don't use Russian sites to promulgate your Russian propaganda.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:03 pm to
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Actually, that is exactly how arguments and debate work. So, yeah. We can


Tearing down sources and then citing them later is a shite debate tactic

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Ukraine's army is at least 3x the size it was at the end of 2021. And it is now one of the leading cutting edge arms manufacturers in all of Europe. It cant pump out the raw tonnage that Russia can. But it has developed its own cruise missiles, anti tank missiles, rocket propelled artillery, short range ballistic missiles. It's now one of the world's leading manufacturers of drones, autonomous marine systems, and other technology.

It even makes some of these systems in such quantities that it is exporting surplus on the open market. Ukraine is so far ahead of us in drone development and production that it is licensing technology and production to the US military.

It also has about 1 million men under the age of 25 still in the country that it can draft into service, but hasn't needed to yet.

Ukraine is far stronger than it was when this war started.


And yet they are still slowly but consistenly losing ground to a force famously using donkeys to transport supplies Sounds like they might be run by idiots.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:11 pm to
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they are still slowly but consistenly losing ground to a force famously using donkeys to transport supplies
75 years ago??? Seriously???
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:13 pm to
LINK

Article from this year
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135115 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:16 pm to
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to dodge drones
I'd ride a frickin' ostrich if it helped me to avoid those Ukrainian kamikaze drones from blowing me up...
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:17 pm to
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I'd ride a frickin' ostrich if it helped me to avoid those Ukrainian kamikaze drones from blowing me up...



Take it up with CitizenK, he uses the donkey thing as proof that Russia is losing every couple of weeks
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:23 pm to
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Take it up with CitizenK, he uses the donkey thing as proof that Russia is losing every couple of weeks


So CitizenK was right at least according to Trump. Russia is losing. How the worm turns.

I wonder if they have enough feed for their horses and mules.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:28 pm to
The problem with this is who would risk loaning money to Russia?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135115 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Take it up with CitizenK
Nah, you're the poster who just used the donkey story to prove your point about how weak the Russian military is.

When apparently the use of donkeys is a defensive tactic to avoid being killed by Ukrainian drones.

LINK
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:33 pm to
Ukainians are paying $5.50 per gal for gasoline. It had only one refinery operating at below 50% capacity after 2014. One just doesn't reopen refineries not being maintained without extensive overhaul.

Take the Corco Refinery near Ponce Puerto Rico. It was closed in 1982 without spending money to purge all of the lines and run naphtha or diesel through its pressure vessels, heat exchangers and fired heaters. Within a decade it had all turned to tar or heavier. Also, Russian oil companies owned much if not most of the refining capacity. You can guarantee that they just walked away without doing anything to preserve them. If there had been any intention of restarting them, not only would a light product have been used to purge everything, pumps and compressors would be run for at least a few minutes monthly to keep them operable.

Russians are paying $9 per gal.

FACTS matter
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 2:45 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:33 pm to
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Nah, you're the poster who just used the donkey story to prove your point about how weak the Russian military is.



Nah, you just didn't get the reference.

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When apparently the use of donkeys is a defensive tactic to avoid being killed by Ukrainian drones.



Tell that to the ones here who claimed it was because they didn't have vehicles they could use because they ran out

This is particularly hilarious to me personally because I just mind fricked one of you Ukraine-First bots into proving a point I made probably months ago at this point
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 2:36 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:34 pm to
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FACTS matter



How is that technology that silicon valley couldn't even comprehend coming along?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16224 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 2:46 pm to
Bad marketing by the developer. It worked in other applications in the 1980's such as hunter killer satellites


Sorry that you know so little and cannot grasp engineering technology.
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