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re: Latest from DOGE: Agencies often have more software licenses than employees
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:03 pm to Friedbrie
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:03 pm to Friedbrie
WinZip has been an effectively obsolete application since around 2009.
All OSs have built in zip functionality by default since the Windows 7 era.
The government is fricking retarded.
All OSs have built in zip functionality by default since the Windows 7 era.
The government is fricking retarded.
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 8:04 pm
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:04 pm to SingleMalt1973
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They should run that Rocket subscription checker app on the Fed Gubment.
Or considering one of those redundant ticket systems is undoubtedly servicenow they should use Software asset management piece and dedupe
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:06 pm to Friedbrie
Hackers are using companies’ licenses without them knowing it. This causes them to always run short and have to buy more. It was happening to us.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:08 pm to oklahogjr
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This is a pretty common problem in corporate America
Some companies sell their unused licenses to companies that resell at a significant discount. I have purchased MSSQL 15 cal license for $800. A new license would sell for 4K.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:11 pm to StansberryRules
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The government is fricking retarded.
Yeah; can be said about each line item noted. Beyond unreasonable. I think this just points to the bigger issue of absolute bloat and feds not giving a shite.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:16 pm to Friedbrie
Very common issue in corporate america, typically 5% over employee rate is common in companies that have great procedures in place to manage licenses. I would be cautious that all of these are gotchas, a lot of companies will sell you a bucket of licenses say 500-1000 licenses are X amount and if you need 1001 you go up to the next bucket, so that would be really easy for lazy journalists to make a big deal out of something that is a nothingburger.
All that being said, if corporate America is bad at this, I expect the government to be down right awful, which makes sense if they are paying for 100% more licenses than employees, that’s pretty crazy.
All that being said, if corporate America is bad at this, I expect the government to be down right awful, which makes sense if they are paying for 100% more licenses than employees, that’s pretty crazy.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:19 pm to cubsfan5150
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Very common and low hanging fruit. Anyone that’s been in the military would tell you this isn’t surprising.
Find something noteworthy, doge
Drop in the bucket, amirite?
I’m good with any savings.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:20 pm to Friedbrie
It’s pretty normal for licenses to get reviewed and outright canceled for everyone periodically. The ones that actually need it get their line manager to approve getting it back. The fact this wasn’t done, at minimum, bi-annually is proof that the ability to get software was entirely too simple at fed-gov. And if they were overlooking that very simple thing, what else are they overlooking?
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:22 pm to Friedbrie
Software licenses can get very costly.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:23 pm to Gee Grenouille
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It’s pretty normal for licenses to get reviewed and outright canceled for everyone periodically.
No That's a sign of bad asset management.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:23 pm to Stuckinthe90s
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if they are paying for 100% more licenses than employees
The fact that it's WinZip is more troubling than the numbers. 13k employees doesn't mean they only need 13k licenses.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:23 pm to oklahogjr
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For an organization this size it's not unrealistic what they have here. And sometimes you buy up with plans to expand or things change and you negotiate back down.
The ss admin finding uipath having double licenses is a good example. If they continue building out automation there they'll continue to consume more and more since it's tied to workers not users there. Nothing nefarious there just more info needed
Rule #1 of this forum is everything is nefarious and must be waste. Joking but not joking at the same time.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:28 pm to oklahogjr
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This is a pretty common problem in corporate America
I agree. And I can vouch for it being common in government work due to employee turnover.
But I’m curious about this reported finding because Musk also knows corporate America and manages several corporations.
Apparently the most successful entrepreneurs alive today sees this as wasteful. I’ll hear him out.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:30 pm to Willie Stroker
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Apparently the most successful entrepreneurs alive today sees this as wasteful. I’ll hear him out.
He also says he isn't right all the time and the tweets he sends out need validated later....
I do agree it should be cleaned up some though. Reductions in licensing will save us a few million potentially
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:33 pm to Willie Stroker
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Apparently the most successful entrepreneurs alive today sees this as wasteful. I’ll hear him out.
“Some of the things that I say will be incorrect, and should be corrected."
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:35 pm to Friedbrie
How many of those fed gov employees actually use Tableau and if they do are they proficient?
FFS
FFS
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:36 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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“Some of the things that I say will be incorrect, and should be corrected
You cite this quote as if it's a bad thing. I see it as just the opposite
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:36 pm to Willie Stroker
What are the odds of those responding its not uncommon to have 1000s of licenses unused......are 40lbs overweight saying "ah it aint that much" while grabbing another handful of Cheetos 
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:37 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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You cite this quote as if it's a bad thing. I see it as just the opposite
Nope. I cite this quote because that's what he said. If he can admit he's wrong, the Loyalists should learn from that.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:38 pm to oklahogjr
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He also says he isn't right all the time and the tweets he sends out need validated later....
I love the fact that he said this and I find it funny that so many people act like it's some sort of gotcha. I have actually seen him in videos in the past well before he entered the political Arena where he was highly receptive to anybody challenging his ideas regarding a variety of subjects to include engineering on his current Space Program. That's exactly the kind of person I want addressing challenging problems
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