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Largest Employers in each state, a response to the private company crowd
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:07 pm
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Largest employer per state. Sorry
image of states
Have any of you ever considered that most people are actually working for "private industry" and just dont make enough to cover everything or barely make it.
I doubt the majority of private industry workers would be struggling under the same circumstances.
In many cases, federal jobs PAY MORE than their private sector counterparts.
FEE federal workers and private sector
Edit: let me clarify. My point was to illustrate that private employment is not necessarily a guarantee of better salary. It is quite possible to be better off working for federal government over private industry (this varies by location and industry).
Even with the risk of a shutdown, many people are ultimately better off working for government than private industry. The largest employer being Walmart in many areas that are currently Red states (South AND Midwest) should be an alarm to you. It means a large number of conservatives are just subsisting.
Largest employer per state. Sorry
image of states
Have any of you ever considered that most people are actually working for "private industry" and just dont make enough to cover everything or barely make it.
I doubt the majority of private industry workers would be struggling under the same circumstances.
In many cases, federal jobs PAY MORE than their private sector counterparts.
FEE federal workers and private sector
Edit: let me clarify. My point was to illustrate that private employment is not necessarily a guarantee of better salary. It is quite possible to be better off working for federal government over private industry (this varies by location and industry).
Even with the risk of a shutdown, many people are ultimately better off working for government than private industry. The largest employer being Walmart in many areas that are currently Red states (South AND Midwest) should be an alarm to you. It means a large number of conservatives are just subsisting.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 1:23 pm
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:08 pm to volod
Your first link doesn't work.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:08 pm to volod
Link fail.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:09 pm to volod
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n many cases, federal jobs PAY MORE than their private sector counterparts.
And that is a problem.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:10 pm to volod
Get better links fricktard
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:10 pm to volod
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In many cases, federal jobs PAY MORE than their private sector counterparts.
So you're saying, we are overpaying for government work? I'm shocked!
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:13 pm to volod
I don't understand your point here, or what you are trying to relate.
Walmart is the largest employer for the plurality of states. The ones that aren't are mostly state-run hospital or university systems.
Walmart employees by and large do not make that much money. Most federal government employees are paid well above average Walmart salary. Was anyone under the impression that government workers are underpaid?
I don't know that anyone doesn't already know this; what does this have to do with anything?
Walmart is the largest employer for the plurality of states. The ones that aren't are mostly state-run hospital or university systems.
Walmart employees by and large do not make that much money. Most federal government employees are paid well above average Walmart salary. Was anyone under the impression that government workers are underpaid?
I don't know that anyone doesn't already know this; what does this have to do with anything?
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:13 pm to volod
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In many cases, federal jobs PAY MORE than their private sector counterparts.
Some of that is skewed. Keep in mind that FEDGOV is full of lawyers and accountants and a good bit of their support infrastructure (portal security guards, janitorial, some technical services, etc.) is outsourced to private contractors.
Rank and file GS employees tend to be underpaid compared to comparable peers (particularly comparable jobs for their attorneys, project managers, analysts and managers), but the relatively generous benefits afforded to Federal workers are the main draws for government recruiters.
But comparing the "government" workforce to the population at large or even the private workforce isn't even apples to oranges, it's like apples to plutonium.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:16 pm to volod
quote:This a math fail. Largest employer does not equate to >51% of the workers.
most people are actually working for "private industry"
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:18 pm to volod
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In many cases, federal jobs PAY MORE than their private sector counterparts.
Which is the premise of socialism: govt controlling costs and production. This is not a good thing, you dolt
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:25 pm to Midget Death Squad
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Which is the premise of socialism: govt controlling costs and production. This is not a good thing, you dolt
According to supply side economics, the wealth should allocate itself to the workers because they are productive and create wealth for the employer.
Government will always tax, but that shouldn't stop employers from paying good salaries to their employees.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:26 pm to volod
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According to supply side economics, the wealth should allocate itself to the workers.
What does that have to do with government employees?
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:29 pm to volod
In fact, just a couple years ago, if you count all local, state, fed employees, including armed forces, they surpassed private industry totals.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:29 pm to volod
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but that shouldn't stop employers from paying good salaries to their employees.
They do, when the job being performed actually warrants a high salary. Checking people out at Walmart is not one of those jobs.
The fact that there are a bunch of Walmarts across the country, and Walmart employs low salary workers for low salary jobs, does not mean that private companies do not pay their employees well enough. Generally, they tend to pay them exactly what they are worth.
The federal government salary doesn't live by those rules, merit and job description/performance are not a part of the calculation
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:29 pm to volod
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According to supply side economics, the wealth should allocate itself to the workers because they are productive and create wealth for the employer.
Government will always tax, but that shouldn't stop employers from paying good salaries to their employees.
What are you arguing here?
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:31 pm to volod
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According to supply side economics, the wealth should allocate itself to the workers because they are productive and create wealth for the employer.
Yup, until they are overburdened with costly regulations and taxes. Then they must allocate wealth to appease the government's power.
That's why we are finally seeing wage increases under Trump.
Thanks for playing
ETA: So you don't think this is being pulled out of my arse, here's some evidence
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a bolt of good news to President Trump and congressional Republicans less than two months before the midterms.
There have been few signs of wage growth even as unemployment has fallen and the economy has expanded. But Friday's report suggested wages may finally be on the rise, though they are, as of now, only keeping up with inflation.
Worker pay grew 2.9 percent in the past year — near the target of 3 percent — the fastest growth since the recession ended in June 2009, and a positive sign that paychecks may get a boost after years of stagnation.
A rise is wages has been a major missing element of a more than nine-year economic recovery, confounding economists.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:34 pm to cuyahoga tiger
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In fact, just a couple years ago, if you count all local, state, fed employees, including armed forces, they surpassed private industry totals.
You got a citation for that one, homie?
The largest numbers you'll ever see for the US public sector are typically around 18%.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:44 pm to volod
Walmart's minimum wage is $11/hr. That's nearly $4/hr higher than federal minimum wage, which most Southern states are stuck at.
A good half of the people who work there probably make more than that. Managers, long-time employees, etc. Most states also have distribution centers, and in Arkansas, we have corporate HQ, Walmart.com, etc.
A good half of the people who work there probably make more than that. Managers, long-time employees, etc. Most states also have distribution centers, and in Arkansas, we have corporate HQ, Walmart.com, etc.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:24 pm to volod
Largest employer is interesting, but not indicative of much.
New York's largest employer is the state university system. That just completely ignores the state's financial and entertainment sectors. Not to mention ports and international trade. It is a very misleading picture.
New York's largest employer is the state university system. That just completely ignores the state's financial and entertainment sectors. Not to mention ports and international trade. It is a very misleading picture.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 2:27 pm to volod
Man you are just an idiot. And I don't mean that as an insult. I mean it in the sense do the word idiot. You're trying hard to get woke. I appreciate that.
But the way you eat up the government's slop is ridiculous.
But the way you eat up the government's slop is ridiculous.
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