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re: Landry says 'time to get back to work' ahead of expected remote work changes for employees

Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by Swampcat
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:04 pm to
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Any place I've ever worked, handicapped people with accomodations have done the work. So, maybe you've just had some bad experi


That is not what I said at all.

You don’t think there are fed and state employees who take advantage of these policies? I’m only talking about those who play the system which there are plenty that everyone knows they are playing the system and protected at the same time! This affects the moral of that organization; work production and effects relationships with the consumers.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 6:12 pm
Posted by FrankandBeans
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:00 pm to
I think he should be more concerned with how much taxpayer money is wasted paying legislators. The amount of perks they get is pretty nice. How much money is spent for food and lodging on them each session.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 7:07 pm
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:18 pm to
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If you aren't doing your job, whether in the office or at home, then you're fired. Simple as that. Why all the performance. If people are productive at home, let them be there and have more time with their family, and keep the roads clear of traffic for me.


This! I like going to the office but some of the folks i manage are far more productive working remote. It’s all about management. I know how much they should accomplish in a day, a week, month. I am constantly checking their progress. The minute they lay down, i would call it out and if it happened again, they would have to come back to the office.

Now, if you have shitty management, remote work will never work and those folks would likely take advantage of the opportunity.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:06 pm to
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quote: Or I could just not commit payroll fraud and enter in an hour of sick leave for a doctors appointment AND get paid The problem is the WFH folks that are not entering any kind of time AND still getting paid for non-working matters like doctor appointments. That is fraud. Might be a foreign concept to you but some companies don’t care or even require people to enter sick leave. Mine does not. Been there 20 years. If I’m sick or need to go to the doctor all I do is tell my boss. He couldn’t care less about it as long as my work gets done. You must work for some boomer arse company.

This post is about state workers returning to the office. So yes, government employees are required to enter time off. I guarantee you many are not on their WFH days.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:15 pm to
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They've already been working in the office at least three days a week. Another dumb announcement from our next one-term governor.

That's why he plans on ordering 4 days a week in office. That will make the state government much more productive. /s

It seemed like a 3/2 hybrid schedule with daily reports was a good compromise. Not looking forward to an increase in rush hour traffic if he goes through with this order.

Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:37 pm to
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The problem is the WFH folks that are not entering any kind of time AND still getting paid for non-working matters like doctor appointments. That is fraud.

Correct. Cut and dry time fraud. One of the easiest ways to lose a state job.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:30 am to
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I have a brother and brother-in-law that WFH. I know for a fact (because I'm retried) that they do random shite most of the day, then lock themselves away about time for the wife and kids to come home

One is in teleradiology that usually reads his last scans about bedtime to meet his productivity goal

translation: someone is sitting their arse in the ER until he gets around to it. His arrogant arse makes sure the job is done on his time, not company hours. The in-house guys get shite done by end of shift, so they can get out of there



So...the company he is working for is using the wrong metric to measure throughput. They have daily quotas instead of measuring the delta in time between when it was received, opened and diagnosed. He could be in an office and saying stupid shite on Tiger Droppings and still would be just as unproductive. It isn't where he is sitting that makes him unproductive. It is being a worthless turd that makes him unproductive.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:42 am to
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The boomer fetish of asses in cubicles to sit at a computer all day never ceases to amaze me.

90% are fine, but a lot are doing 2 or 3 jobs while working remote. New Orleans famously had a DEI hat was working, executive level, remotely for multiple municipalities.
Posted by TiderTom
Pleasant Grove
Member since Apr 2011
458 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:03 am to
The WFH army gets excited about this bigly. I’ve spent time around CEO’s, managers, etc. Believe me. They’ve realized the value to you of working from home and it’s only a matter of time before WFH is priced down from coming to work. Bank it. lol. And do not fool yourself about how “valuable” you are. If you can do your job in your jammies at home, sooner or later they’re gonna get a Haji to do it from his home at half your salary. Again, they are NOT going to overlook the 4-5k$ (minimum) your saving working from home. You’re myopic if you don’t see this.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:21 am to
I know but they really believe they have the same value as ones required to come into the office. They are also pretty sensitive bc they don't even comprehend that if you are hired to work in the office you shouldn't bitch about having to work in an office...find a WFH job! during covid many at my company worked from home and I heard all of the perks they had not coming into an office. A few that went from salary to part time before covid hit to have fridays off started working 40 again If there wasn't advantages to WFH that they see over working at the office they wouldn't be so defensive.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:40 am to
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So...the company he is working for is using the wrong metric to measure throughput. They have daily quotas instead of measuring the delta in time between when it was received, opened and diagnosed. He could be in an office and saying stupid shite on Tiger Droppings and still would be just as unproductive. It isn't where he is sitting that makes him unproductive. It is being a worthless turd that makes him unproductive.

You missed the entire point

Becuase they are not required to be in-house, they dont apply for in-house postings. And since no one applies form them, they have to open WFH. That allows them to drag arse all day long, because they can get away with it

When companies end WFH, these types immediately begin whining and complaining, because they know they cant frick around all day any longer, will be appropriately supervised, and can no longer work that side hustle
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:45 am to
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You missed the entire point

Becuase they are not required to be in-house, they dont apply for in-house postings. And since no one applies form them, they have to open WFH. That allows them to drag arse all day long, because they can get away with it



I get the point...and my point was, just because someone has a butt in an office chair, doesn't mean they aren't dragging arse all day long, too. I think there are jobs that can be done remotely and jobs that require people to be in-person. But you can't just throw a blanket to cover all jobs with either situation. If it makes sense to bring people back due to the nature of the job, that's just what you have to do. If you bring people back because you want to say you have brought people back and it negatively impacts your bottom line, then you are just being reactive.

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When companies end WFH, these types immediately begin whining and complaining, because they know they cant frick around all day any longer, will be appropriately supervised, and can no longer work that side hustle



I've supervised people who have had 45 minute commutes to work and their job involved handling data on their computers. At the end of the day, if they had 15 more minutes to wrap something up, but it would put them into rush hour traffic...they would stop and finish it the next day. When they began working from home, they would just wrap things up to finish them because it didn't impact their commute. Their throughput increased and overtime went down 30%. That isn't the case for everyone...but it was the case for them.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:55 am to
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The boomer fetish of asses in cubicles to sit at a computer all day never ceases to amaze me.


Well, boomers went to school before they stopped teaching simple logic. That's why their thought process amazes you. For example...

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If people are productive at home, let them be there and have more time with their family


If someone is really "spending time with family," then they aren't spending time working. There's no way both can be true (that's the simple logic part, according the Aristotelean principle of the Law of Non-Contradiction).

If they are spending MORE time, as you say, with family when "working" from home, then they are, by necessity, spending LESS time working than they would at the office, where there is no family to spend time with.

That's the thing that you "work" from home types can't get around. If there was no benefit to "working" from home, no one would care about doing it. One benefit is that you can work for a company that isn't located in the area in which you live. But if we're talking about living in Houston and the office is in Houston, six blocks away, well, then everyone knows why you're militant about "working" from home. Because you aren't really working nearly as much as you would if you were in the office.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 9:56 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:56 am to
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When they began working from home, they would just wrap things up to finish them because it didn't impact their commute.

You know this isnt true. Because they didnt even get to it yet, because they wanted to get to the gym before the crowds, or do school pick-up at 3 o'clock. They were being just as inefficient, because being out of the office allows for a ton more distractions. Youre not leaving the office to do pick-up, or mow the lawn, or hit the gym, or meet someone for a long lunch, etc, but you can justify it from home. Easily

Because WFH people think, as long as I meet my productivity, its no ones business what I do with my day
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:03 am to
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When they began working from home, they would just wrap things up to finish them because it didn't impact their commute.


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You know this isnt true. Because they didnt even get to it yet, because they wanted to get to the gym before the crowds, or do school pick-up at 3 o'clock.



They work from 8-4:30. I can see in the system when things were completed, and would see things roll in at or around 5:00 all the time. There were metrics actually being measured that showed efficiency...the metrics improved. This is actual, real experience with WFH vs on-site...not just an anecdotal story about an acquaintance.

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Because WFH people think, as long as I meet my productivity, its no ones business what I do with my day




There are plenty of people in offices who think the same thing.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:21 am to
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This is actual, real experience with WFH vs on-site.

The most recent data disagrees

Remote work is bad for you. How people willingly slow down their career.

Internet connections limit home working

Browsing Costs Employers $28 Billion Annually. More likely to surf from home
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Working From Home Killing Your Company

Remote work sounds great—until you realize it’s making businesses less efficient and slowing down execution. The reality? Humans work better together. Companies that prioritize efficiency will win.

Spontaneous convos spark innovation.
Quick in-person chats replace endless Zoom meetings.
Speed > Bureaucracy

The ones that stay bogged down in remote inefficiencies? They won’t survive.

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There are plenty of people in offices who think the same thing.

And if appropriately supervised, wont be there tomorrow. But you cannot supervise like that in-home
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