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re: Landry says 'time to get back to work' ahead of expected remote work changes for employees
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:19 pm to theballguy
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:19 pm to theballguy
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Most of you guys on this board don't seem to understand the basic fact that you ultimately only bring value if you're producing something of value.
75% of government jobs produce nothing of value. Half those people working remotely aren’t doing anything, maybe fricking around all day, maybe they have a second remote job and getting paid double. There is zero accountability for government workers so unless I can put my eyeballs on you my assumption is you are doing close to nothing.
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:21 pm to back9Tiger
This is baloney. Do we pay the guy who lives nearby less than the one who drives farther to get to work? No, your pay should be determined by what you do for the company not about how far you travel or do not travel to get there.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:22 pm to BoudinChicot
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If people are productive at home,
They are not. We have numerous evidence of people complaining on tik tok that they have to go back to the office and can no longer pick up their kids from school or eat breakfast with them. Get your lazy arse back to the office so your boss can keep a good eye on you slackers
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:23 pm to BoudinChicot
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If you aren't doing your job, whether in the office or at home, then you're fired. Simple as that.
“Your job” means doing what the employer asks you to do for the pay. If part of that assignment is to work from an office then that is part of “your job”. Otherwise, like you suggested, fire them.
Pretty simple to me and I’m not even a boomer. I’m a Gen X man myself. ??
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:25 pm to Topwater Trout
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if you were hired to come into an office setting at a certain wage why would you think staying at home should be compensated the same?
Not sure I understand what you're asking here.
I haven't been hired to come into an office since around 2011. Sometime around 2013, I was given permission to work from home permanently. I have never snuck off from work.
I don't believe in "should". I believe in "is". The boss should be able to make an offer for a position that he/she wants it be set at. It's up to the employee to accept the pay and conditions or not.
If I worked at a place where I'm paid extra to come into the office (and it's mandatory that I do), then if I don't already have another job, I'll comply but I'll be looking for another job that will allow me to work remotely. There's too many out there that will allow me to work remotely and with same pay as an office worker of equivalent skillset would get.
It's ultimately a matter of economics. If you provide enough value, you'll have a lot more leeway in what you can ask for. It's the art of the deal I suppose.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:26 pm to pochejp
Either y’all want government workers to act like private or you don’t. If they don’t perform, let them go. No reason to increase traffic for the sake of having butts in seats doing same work.
Also, DOTD is running about 50-60% workforce. What y’all really complain about is legislation that puts all the red tape around this bullshite.
Also, DOTD is running about 50-60% workforce. What y’all really complain about is legislation that puts all the red tape around this bullshite.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:28 pm to BigPerm30
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That’s why we’ve shipped so many of them overseas. However, a typical job is not as productive when you are at your house. There is no way of convincing me otherwise.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:28 pm to BigPerm30
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However, a typical job is not as productive when you are at your house. There is no way of convincing me otherwise.
During my time with the state (31 years), I would telework about one day every couple of weeks. I found the opposite of what you’re saying to be true. Work place intrusions and distractions slowed me down in the office, working at home didn’t. However, I am somewhat skeptical of a lot of full time telework govt positions.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:28 pm to pochejp
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“Your job” means doing what the employer asks you to do for the pay. If part of that assignment is to work from an office then that is part of “your job”. Otherwise, like you suggested, fire them.
Fwiw, I completely agree with this. If your boss hired you to work in an office, then you have to follow the rules and you can't just say, hey boss, I'm going to work from home, I don't care what you say. You'll be fired pretty quickly.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:30 pm to prouddawg
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I am somewhat skeptical of a lot of full time telework govt positions.
As am I but it's none of my business ultimately. You can report fraud and waste and vote but that's about all you can do. I try to swim in my lane and just enjoy what I've been given.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:32 pm to Bigdawgb
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I'd say no reason someone should be paid more to take their Zoom meetings in an office vs. their home office
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:33 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Performative.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:34 pm to prouddawg
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During my time with the state (31 years), I would telework about one day every couple of weeks. I found the opposite of what you’re saying to be true. Work place intrusions and distractions slowed me down in the office, working at home didn’t. However, I am somewhat skeptical of a lot of full time telework govt positions.
I’m not doubting you and you’re probably a great asset to the state. You however are the exception and not the rule.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:35 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
I go into work 5 day + a week. I work out in the heat everyday and I have 0 issues with those who work from home legitimately. Now government workers, I have an issue because you know they aren't doing anything but I don't get the hate for private workers.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:36 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
I feel like 85% - 90% of jobs can be done at home or in the office. I'm not a fan of full WFH, I like and need the flexibility to either go in or WFH. but forcing people to go in the office from 8-5 every day is unnecessary. Have flex days, and a hybrid schedule
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:45 pm to back9Tiger
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But don't offer me the same package as someone that works from home, i'll incur more costs and shluld be compensated more vs. a remote worker.
Why does the company care that you chose to live where you'd have a commute?? Why does the company care about your car payment?? That affects YOUR employment decisions, not the company's.
What you're saying is that they have to pay you MORE to get the same productivity as mr. Remote Worker. That doesn't make any sense
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:48 pm to rob0710
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Now government workers, I have an issue because you know they aren't doing anything
Depends. Some of them at mid-to-high levels do a great job and need no almost no oversight. Those who are just clerical types, I tend to agree they probably screw off a good bit. If anything though, I would say that management in government don't do a lot of supervising as they probably should.
Where I work, we have deliverables and daily meetings so we have to always stay on task.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:49 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Temu Trump strikes again!
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:51 pm to 4cubbies
While we are going to Elon DOGE route, let’s start auditing the costs contractors charge. I’ve seen some hefty contracts.
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