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re: Landrieu: Unelect Me If You Don't Like Obamacare
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:02 am to Meauxjeaux
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:02 am to Meauxjeaux
So you think he's paying significantly MORE than an extra $2500 a year? Going from $1150 per year to over $4500 or so? 
This post was edited on 8/30/14 at 9:03 am
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Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:05 am to SirWinston
quote:
Yeah his "$98 to over $300 a month" really does not pass the smell test.
pre-ACA my plan was $85/month and held steady for a few years (slight increase)
from the ACA's adoption until last year, it had almost doubled to $150/month
once ACA dropped this year, THAT doubled to $300/month
so almost a quadruple since the ACA was passed. when i'm the one who is doing everything right (picking the smart high-deductible plan, not abusing it like using the ER for bullshite, actually getting insurance, etc). i get punished because other people want to be lazy or not do what they're supposed to do
makes total sense
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:07 am to SlowFlowPro
I just don't buy that this is common. The vitriol would be so much higher. There would be marches on Landrieus office and in DC every week.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:10 am to SirWinston
quote:Indeed.
We'd have people marching on the capital if this were honestly true
Wake up!
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:13 am to SirWinston
1. it hasn't hit the employee plans yet fully. that's why they delayed implementation until after november. unfortunately (and i mean for the system at large, not political points), a huge number of people still get insurance via employer
2. lots of young people are on their parents plans. one major insidious part of the ACA plan was kicking the very issue you're referencing down the road a few years by letting kids free ride on their parents' plans
3. young people who don't fall into 1 or 2 either (a) aren't signing up or (b) are getting massive subsidies
i'm own my own business, and i don't have a wife that i can free ride insurance coverage off of. typically in my anecdotal experience, the majority of entrepreneurs who don't have have camel pussy insurance costs avoid the issue by having a wife with an employer-provided plan.
2. lots of young people are on their parents plans. one major insidious part of the ACA plan was kicking the very issue you're referencing down the road a few years by letting kids free ride on their parents' plans
3. young people who don't fall into 1 or 2 either (a) aren't signing up or (b) are getting massive subsidies
i'm own my own business, and i don't have a wife that i can free ride insurance coverage off of. typically in my anecdotal experience, the majority of entrepreneurs who don't have have camel pussy insurance costs avoid the issue by having a wife with an employer-provided plan.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:15 am to NC_Tigah
That was like one march. I'm saying there would be people boycotting constantly and marching every week if having your HC quadruple was common.
This post was edited on 8/30/14 at 9:16 am
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:16 am to La Place Mike
quote:
The majority of the people in the United States were against the law. Especially the people in your home state Mary.
She must have forgotten all of the polls and town hall meetings where there was major dissent. However, the message she and others pushed were. "You want your healthcare, you can keep it" "You want keep your Dr, you can keep your Dr". "This will give healthcare to EVERYONE" "It will be more affordable for everyone" "The average family will save 2500.00 per year"...blah, blah, blah.
Good luck in voting her out LA voters.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:16 am to SirWinston
quote:You seem to be under the impression the employee mandate has kicked in, and most Americans have already directly experienced the abortion that is Obamacare.
I just don't buy that this is common
They have not . . . . yet.
They will though.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:22 am to SirWinston
quote:No dude.
That was like one march.
That was like various marches. Those pics were chosen because they were like protests held in front of each of the branches of government -- SCOTUS, Capitol Hill, and the WH -- like separately.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 9:23 am to NC_Tigah
She's toast unless he gets videoed screwing an under aged boy.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 10:08 am to TJG210
quote:
But why in the hell hasn't Cassidy held her feet to the fire over it. It's time to take the kid gloves off....I'm sick of fricking republicans sitting back and playing nice.
I think after Labor Day you'll start to see a lot more. In the Acadiana area they've both been running a lot of Ads.
quote:
She thought holding one somewhere in the middle of the river parishes during the middle of the day was sufficient. If that isn't arrogance and cowardice I don't know what is.
She held a joke of a one in Lafayette. Lied through her teeth.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 10:24 am to SirWinston
quote:
SirWinston
You are coming off as completely ignorant about Obamacare.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 10:39 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:
What I find fascinating about this line of argument, is the american people, specifically the people of massachusetts, elected a republican! specifically to stop this legislation. Get that, a republican elected in massachusetts specifically to stop this legislation.
Refresh my memory. What stunt did they pull to get past that?
Posted on 8/30/14 at 10:45 am to SirWinston
People pay attention to healthcare costs once a year, during benefits enrollment. Deductibles are way up, as are premiums. Most people don't write a check to the health insurance company, it comes out
Of their paycheck.
Also people that have jobs don't have time to protest they are busy working to cover the living expenses of over 110 million people on government assistance
Of their paycheck.
Also people that have jobs don't have time to protest they are busy working to cover the living expenses of over 110 million people on government assistance
Posted on 8/30/14 at 10:56 am to doubleb
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Posted on 8/30/14 at 11:02 am to Bard
quote:So let me get this straight... you are comparing your contribution to healthcare in the job you have to independent policies on healthcare.gov?
IIRC I pay about $142 each month for my work insurance. Going on healthcare.gov my cheapest plan is 3x that and I qualify for a whopping $14/month subsidy.
quote:Yet you probably complain about how all of your money is going to subsidize welfare queens and the like.
My pay is strictly middle class ($45k/yr).
Amiright?
Posted on 8/30/14 at 11:05 am to imjustafatkid
I may be... and I may be trusting the media too much - I've been hearing more positive things about it lately than negative and I haven't seen any protests like in the past.
Also my healthcare is been unchanged.
Also my healthcare is been unchanged.
This post was edited on 8/30/14 at 11:07 am
Posted on 8/30/14 at 11:07 am to SirWinston
quote:Pretty much.
Yeah his "$98 to over $300 a month" really does not pass the smell test.
Posted on 8/30/14 at 11:16 am to mmcgrath
quote:
So let me get this straight... you are comparing your contribution to healthcare in the job you have to independent policies on healthcare.gov?
I think it's valid to compare what one pays today for their care + what care they get for that + what deductibles they are required to pay today
vs.
what they will pay for care + what care they get for that + what deductibles they are required to pay under ACA.
Isn't that an apples to apples comparison?
Posted on 8/30/14 at 12:02 pm to SirWinston
quote:
I just don't buy that this is common.
You don't want to.
When the employer mandate kicks in, I doubt even you will be in denial. I'm seeing effects in my employer-provided plan already.
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