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LA Times: Camping is segregated because gear is too expensive

Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:47 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52611 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:47 am
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In May, Mo Jackson was camping with a friend in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. They woke at 5 to start a fire, make breakfast and — in the midst of a pandemic — experience the peace that comes with an early morning in a secluded spot.
The beauty of that morning moved Jackson to tears. “I had the most clarifying moment. You know, I just thought, I wish everyone could feel this.”

Jackson realized that, although they could not help everyone feel more connected to nature, they could get a few more people outside by offering free camping gear. “That day I was like, OK, what can I do to get more Black people outdoors? And I thought, well, I have enough savings to get three camping kits together.”



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A 2018 study by the Society of American Foresters found that between 2010 and 2014, 94.6% of visitors to national forests identified as white. People who identified as Latino made up 5.7%, and those who identified as Black made up 1.2%.
Jackson’s personal experiences bear out those numbers. They grew up camping and hiking but noticed at an early age that not many other families resembled theirs. “My dad and I would almost always be the only Black people at any camp we went to,” Jackson said.


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“I think there is a lot of white guilt right now,” Jackson said, explaining why donations suddenly took off. “We’re all learning and growing; sometimes guilt is part of it too — not that we want guilt and shame, but we do want growth.”

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The disparity in access to the outdoors is particularly frustrating to Harris, who pointed out that those who could most benefit from being in a rural environment have often felt excluded. “Being in nature is healing,” she said. “People who need that healing most are Black and Indigenous people, and the idea that it’s inaccessible … it’s just not right.”

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Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:48 am to
all black people are poor



or..or....now hear me out.....maybe they just don't fricking like camping
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89531 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:49 am to
I can outfit a family of 4 with everything they need to camp out for 3 days for under $1000 - EASILY - if we had to hit a strict budget, we could do it for about $650. Gear that will last years and dozens of campouts.


How much do smartphones cost? Cars? Flatscreen TVs?
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 9:50 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52611 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:49 am to
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The kit would include two sleeping bags, a tent and a cooler. Jackson included a Venmo account on Instagram so people could donate to the cause.

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Jackson initially purchased the ready-to-go kits from REI, which cost about $300 each.


Oof!

Did they not check Walmart?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:50 am to
Based on all the looting, I am going to guess that not too many tents were taken.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:50 am to
there's a reason nobody is looting REI
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:51 am to
I love how you can't say all black people are poor and on welfare but if you say it using 1,000 words then it's perfectly acceptable
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95527 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:51 am to
How much of this shite do people have already in most cases?

Sleeping bags, coolers, etc are owned by a lot of people and are fine to be used in camping provided it isn’t in extreme temperatures.


And even then, who says you need to by the high end stuff as a starter when you don’t even know if you will like to do this more than once?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:52 am to
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94.6% of visitors to national forests identified as white

Identified as white? I thought you either were or weren't.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18785 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:52 am to


Yeah, tents and shite are real hard to get hold of. Only the super rich can get them.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17166 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:52 am to
Camping can be cheap as hell or as expensive as one wants.

Couple of sheets, a knife, a frying pan, fishing pole and string with a hook.

Dig worms, bait hook, haul in panfish, fry in pan, sleep between 2 sheets. Wipe arse with leaves. Pretty cheap camping.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:52 am to
Black people in general do not like the woods. Basically a universal "frick that shite"
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6472 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:52 am to
Crap, you can get a used tent and sleeping bag from Goodwill, or pretty decent prices on tents and sleeping bags at Sam's.

You don't have to have a whole lot of gear to go camping and it doesn't have to be new. It's more of a "want to."
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25713 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:52 am to
I’m not black and I hate camping.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:53 am to
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all black people are poor



That’s what the article was implying
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29296 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:53 am to
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In May, Mo Jackson was camping with a friend in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho



They definitely did not do their research ....

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think there is a lot of white guilt right now,” Jackson said, explaining why donations suddenly took off. “We’re all learning and growing; sometimes guilt is part of it too — not that we want guilt and shame, but we do want growth.”


I’m convinced they want to re-enact the scene from There will be blood when Daniel is begging for blood in the church and the pastor is mocking him and slapping him as he begs for it....
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 9:56 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41676 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:53 am to
So is shooting, because anti-gun policies by the left have driven up prices on guns and ammo.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8897 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:54 am to
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Based on all the looting, I am going to guess that not too many tents were taken.


Or work boots.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:55 am to
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Black people in general do not like the woods. Basically a universal "frick that shite"


Twenty black dudes at a "Camping 101 Seminar"

Trainer: "First, we take this rope and throw it over that tree limb"

Twenty black dudes at a dead sprint the frick out of there!
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7534 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:55 am to
Ask the homeless people in California if camping in a tent is too expensive, there's tons of them camping under the freeways now.
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