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La Senate Finance committee passes budget; annoyed at JBE

Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:41 pm
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:41 pm
So remember JBE just sent out a wave of letters telling nursing home residents they might get kicked out.

Then the Senate Finance committee "fixes" those cuts (but guts a lot of other stuff).

Commissioner Dardenne comes to the table and says "well these other cuts are terrible, don't pass a budget"

The committee then jumps him. The republicans were more pointed in saying he was wrong, but even the democrats chastised him.

Even Alario, a pretty strong supporter of the governor, took Dardenne to task albeit in a very polite way. But you can tell he was pissed about the governor's approach.

Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:44 pm to
So are we kicking old frickers out or not?

I need to know if I need to install my plow on my F650 for all the bodies in the streets this weekend.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37518 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:45 pm to
Any link or is this just your opinion that they are annoyed at him?

I’m not trolling here either, I’m genuinely curious about Louisiana politics and any break I get from national stuff on here is refreshing
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:45 pm to
frick JohnBel and his bullshite liberalism. If he didn't open up the medicaid rolls to all those extra people the state COULDN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR 2 YEARS AGO WE WOULDN"T BE SCARING OLD PEOPLE TODAY!!
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:48 pm to
when will the press dig in to how Honor Code made all his money??
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48940 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:50 pm to
So it's "There will be no LSU Football" part 2
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14496 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Any link or is this just your opinion that they are annoyed at him?

I’m not trolling here either, I’m genuinely curious about Louisiana politics and any break I get from national stuff on here is refreshing


My subjective opinion, BUT I did watch the hearings (they finished about an hour ago).

Bottom line: They feel it's their duty to pass a budget and are not happy with the Guv trying to sink that process (FYI- he thinks they shouldn't pass a budget and should just wait until the special session).

I also think (and this is really my conjecture) that the nursing home eviction warnings went too far.

Regardless, he looks pretty dumb for sending out letters to nursing home residents when two days later the Senate fixes the issue.
Posted by arseinclarse
Algiers Purnt
Member since Apr 2007
34412 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

he looks pretty dumb


That's a hot take.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14496 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

So it's "There will be no LSU Football" part 2


Yes, but much worse imho. Nobody sold their football tickets because they thought the season would be cancelled.

Some of these nursing homes and their families are really worried and could make some really poor decisions. Or the stress could be harmful in and of itself. They don't follow the legislature like higher education professionals.

There was even a tweet from AARP that called this a bad move.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95521 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:01 pm to
JBE doesn’t need the Senate’s help with looking like an idiot.
Posted by arseinclarse
Algiers Purnt
Member since Apr 2007
34412 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:03 pm to
Can we get a running list of things JBE has threatened to close/shutdown? I've forgot some I believe.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95521 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:05 pm to
LSU football
Nursing homes
Hospitals
Mardi Gras
The Superdome
Toddy’s a-hole
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14496 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Can we get a running list of things JBE has threatened to close/shutdown? I've forgot some I believe.


So to be clear, the budget is in bad shape. Some revenue is sunsetting so there is a problem. Even the head of the republican house delegation thinks they need more revenue.

So JBE is highlighting the problems of not raising revenue. Whatever, that is part of the salesmanship that is necessary.

But using the power of the health department to do so, crosses a line imho.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25985 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

So are we kicking old frickers out or not?

I need to know if I need to install my plow on my F650 for all the bodies in the streets this weekend.




Her time is up!
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

I also think (and this is really my conjecture) that the nursing home eviction warnings went too far.

Regardless, he looks pretty dumb for sending out letters to nursing home residents when two days later the Senate fixes the issue.


i also think it's a weird strategy to have done this when the current version of the (house's) budget has been out for weeks, and a senate finance version was about to come out any day.

maybe they had been counting on senate finance to kill the bill so they would have to go straight to special session, and realized they were probably going to pass something. the nursing home announcement might have been a panicked attempt to cause enough uproar such that senate finance would pussy out and kill it?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95521 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:14 pm to
A big part of the problem is that there is a huge amount of pork in the budget.

Someone had the numbers of departmental budgets circa 2000 and for this year the other day. They’be ballooned considerably and inflation hasn’t been that much over 18 years.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14496 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

i also think it's a weird strategy to have done this when the current version of the (house's) budget has been out for weeks, and a senate finance version was about to come out any day.

maybe they had been counting on senate finance to kill the bill so they would have to go straight to special session, and realized they were probably going to pass something. the nursing home announcement might have been a panicked attempt to cause enough uproar such that senate finance would pussy out and kill it?


I think that's about right, and it seems to have had the opposite effect. I think the senators felt they needed to pass a budget, but now they really had to do something to quell the fears that JBE stoked.

Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14496 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

A big part of the problem is that there is a huge amount of pork in the budget.

Someone had the numbers of departmental budgets circa 2000 and for this year the other day. They’be ballooned considerably and inflation hasn’t been that much over 18 years.


That's not really true unless you mean federal funds. Between disaster funding and medicaid dollars (particularly the expansion) federal funds have grown quite a bit. State funding hasn't. I mean, it's gone up but not at some crazy pace.

And true pork in the operating budget was eliminated. (now it's still there to some degree in the capital outlay budget)

Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5016 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:33 pm to
Here are the numbers from that other post

Think about the growth of budgetary spending for example in the following from 05-15

Lt Gov office ( Dept of Culcha, recreation and Tourism)
40K dedicated Revenue in 2005 - 10 million by 2015

Attorney General's office
6.6 million in 2005 - 22 million in 2015

Wildlife and Fisheries
62 million in 2005 - 118 million in 2015

Debt service on higher Ed
9 million in 2005 - 39 million in 2015

Legislative Auditor's Office
16 million in 2005 - 35 million in 2015

That's just a sampling
Posted by LSULaw2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1695 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:15 pm to
Wildlife is most if not all self generated funds (not general fund) from fees and their expenditures track the programs they administer.

Large parts of auditor budget are for auditing the Federal disaster funds through Governors Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness and other federal programs audited under single audit and State CAFR. The Auditor audits all of state government and oversees local government audits, so as government grow so does it,
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