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re: LA GATOR / Vouchers - Less than 30% of applicants are current public school students

Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:51 pm to
The state isn't going to give the money to the parent. The state is going to give the money to the school where the parent enrol's the student.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
1622 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:55 pm to
Apparently you only understand the envy part of socialism.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78142 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:57 pm to
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The state isn't going to give the money to the parent. The state is going to give the money to the school where the parent enrol's the student
So? They are being given a thing of value they haven't earned. You know, like housing vouchers...
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The Housing Choice Voucher Program (also known as Section 8) helps low-income families, elderly persons, veterans and disabled individuals afford housing in the private market. Program participants can choose any eligible housing unit, including single-family homes, townhouses, and apartments, with rent partially covered by a subsidy paid directly to the landlord. There are around 2,000 Local Public Housing Agencies (PHAs) across the country that administer the HCV program with funding from HUD.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:02 pm to
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the majority of vouchers will go to families who are currently paying for private school. This is new spending.


Not necessarily. They are private school students that would be bound for public school if not for the vouchers. I looked it up to see the qualifications and my wife and I each make too much money separately to qualify for it. At least I'm pretty sure it was that grant, there are a couple of them.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6016 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:07 pm to
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No one with a brain wants to send their child to a public school in Nola or BR.


Meanwhile in other areas of the state, parents' first choice is public school. Central getting their own school district was a major factor in Redemptorist being shut down. Zachary added another dagger to EBR privates.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59201 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:10 pm to
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Apparently you only understand the envy part of socialism.


? What makes you think I envy someone with a school voucher? Or someone with kids on private school?

Or am I misunderstanding your point?
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14273 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:10 pm to
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Unfortunately, voucher schools have consistently proven to be worse than public schools for students.


I actually advocate for the parents or guardians to be given complete school choice for their children. They should be in charge of the public money assigned to educate their children. They can choose a charter school, their district public school, a private school, a religious school, or home schooling.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59201 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:11 pm to
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Vouchers enable everyone to do the same exact thing Drew Brees does, do what he thinks is best for his child.


The schools Drew Brees would even consider sending his kids to don’t accept vouchers. I can guarantee that.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:14 pm to
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actually advocate for the parents or guardians to be given complete school choice for their children. They should be in charge of the public money assigned to educate their children. They can choose a charter school, their district public school, a private school, a religious school, or home schooling.

We did this in Oklahoma with some covid funds. Parents spent it on PS5s and Xbox instead of learning supplies......
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24760 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:16 pm to
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Yet Benjamin Franklin High School in New Orleans is consistently ranked as the top public high school in Louisiana by U.S. News & World Report. It's also ranked among the best public high schools in the nation. In 2019, it was ranked as the 15th best charter school in the US.



No thanks.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 8:17 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59201 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:19 pm to
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I actually advocate for the parents or guardians to be given complete school choice for their children. They should be in charge of the public money assigned to educate their children. They can choose a charter school, their district public school, a private school, a religious school, or home schooling.


How does this differ from our current reality? Or when you say “they can choose” do you mean “taxpayers should foot the bill for their kids if they choose private or religious school?”
Posted by Sugarbaker
Peachtree
Member since Jun 2023
561 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:23 pm to
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Hope not, not sure how LA is but here in NC home schooling falls under the department of Non public education, and they have very little rules. I don't want the government money so I can homeschool my kiddo as then they have rules and a say in what you teach.


This. Absolutely. A great many people active in homeschool support and grassroots lobby groups are very much against GATOR applying to homeschools designated as “non public schools not seeking state approval” for this reason. You take the money, you invite interference and oversight.
Posted by TigerAllNightLong
Member since Jul 2023
990 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:24 pm to
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The state isn't going to give the money to the parent. The state is going to give the money to the school where the parent enrol's the student.

The answer is to stop funding education entirely.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59201 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:28 pm to
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You didnt even see what you did here


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So nothing like a public school, with a specific zone, and local board direction



This describes every single public school in New Orleans. Every public school in New Orleans is charter, except for the Leah Chase School which opened in August.

Where have you been for the last 20 years?
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 8:29 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20682 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:34 pm to
WRONG - has nothing to do with the poor and choice. If it did, there would be income limits on the grants with the poorest getting the money 1st.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33382 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:44 pm to
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Where have you been for the last 20 years?

Watching public money go to selective admissions school

Which is what this thread is about. Yet for whatever reason, you used a charter school to disagree with the new policy

And before you deny Franklin is treated as private, the hi-school sports association has 2 categories for competition; select and non-select. Guess where Franklin is grouped? They are considered a select school, and as such are required to compete at that level with privates. Because they arent a public school by composition
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14975 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:58 pm to
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Vouchers enable everyone to do the same exact thing Drew Brees does, do what he thinks is best for his child. Why would you rather trap poor children in a failed school. When the money goes with the student the parent can use the money to do what they think is best for their child.


So vouchers for low income kids who cannot escape the system make some sense.

But for wealthier families who can already afford private school, it's just a waste of money.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 11:59 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59201 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:03 pm to
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Which is what this thread is about. Yet for whatever reason, you used a charter school to disagree with the new policy


Most of the charter schools are open-enrollment. I’m assuming you have a problem with magnet schools, as well, since they are selective enrollment?

I used a charter school because every school in NO has been charter for decades until one single district-run school opened in August.

Ben Franklin was the best public high school in Louisiana before NO moved to the all charter model, too, so your point is moot.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35771 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:09 pm to
Am I retarded or are vouchers not specifically intended for kids to go to private schools?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35771 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:10 pm to
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Yet Benjamin Franklin High School in New Orleans is consistently ranked as the top public high school in Louisiana by U.S. News & World Report. It's also ranked among the best public high schools in the nation. In 2019, it was ranked as the 15th best charter school in the US.


Oh, so that one school is good. Got it.
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