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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3: Reported Jury is done deliberating for the day

Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:24 am to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:24 am to
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This is a jury of likely working class Kenosha residents who were likely disgusted by what happened to their city. They’ve seen the video of clear self-defense too. No fricking way will twelve of them vote to convict on negligent homicide. That’s pure lunacy.
According to Barnes' polling (he was on the defense team for 8 months) of Kenosha, 2/3rds of the residents thought Kyle was already guilty of something prior to the trial. You're being naive in regards to how easily people are manipulated by an immediate, false narrative.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27577 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:25 am to
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It was the best possible prosecution this case could have.

It appears that you are correct. That really says something about the facts of the case. I understand that with two dead the charge gets brought, but when the details don't support the prosecution at the end of the investigation, to carry on seems pointless. I'm still surprised that the jury is taking this long.
Posted by plaric
Pike Road, Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
2269 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:26 am to
I think the Jury is concerned of being doxed once they deliver an acquittal honestly
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78160 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:26 am to
What lesser charges were allowed to be considered?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297196 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:26 am to
I can't see it happening again if it's a mistrial.

I think the prosecution knows its a loser.

The media and president biden corrupted judgement.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10751 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:27 am to
Sad that our 'justice' system has come to this.
Jury should have come back with 'not guilty' within an hour on first day.
Judges and juries are scared to deliver.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37695 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:28 am to
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The defense's actions make me wonder what the long game here is. They get another trial (not sure they'll be the next trial's lawyers albeit), they know no jury selected in the world will convict. Meanwhile, Kyle spends more of his time and life on this case, but it builds up the settlement money from the media and Kenosha. Allows the prosecutors more rope to make the eventual hanging even that much more solid.

Just spitballing here. No clue if any of that is logical or not.

Been some talk that the Defense screwed up rushing jury selection and retrial w/o prejudice would also give another shot at doing better with that.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7697 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:28 am to
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2/3rds of the residents thought Kyle was already guilty of something prior to the trial.


and 33% of those people said that NOTHING during the trial could change their mind

There's just no way Kyle got 18 potential jurors without getting at least one activist
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10454 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:29 am to
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Can they do this if he is not charged with it? I agree that they will never get 12 to agree on this.

Yeah I was replying to what he posted without thinking about that. I was THINKING that it’s one of the lesser charges they’re allowed to consider but not sure now that you mention it. Is it not? I would think they can’t do so if not. I’m no expert though.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9315 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:30 am to
Was just thinking this, it had to be a hung jury
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68807 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:33 am to
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However, he did purchase the gun illegally, right (though that would be a violation of federal, not state law, and this court would not have jurisdiction), and there was a curfew that night (Though obviously not enforced). Had he not bought the gun or broken curfew, he would not be in this situation. Does he not bear some responsibility, moral if not legal (and I get that the law may create technical issues that may make "legal" different from "moral")?


fricking idiot you are.
Posted by smh4wg
Member since May 2021
777 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:34 am to
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The poise and discipline he displayed with that gun, as a 17 year old kid under attack from older hardened criminals in what had to be a very frightening ordeal, was nothing short of remarkable.


Heroic.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10454 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:35 am to
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Heroic

Absolutely.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146457 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:35 am to
quote:

quote:

2/3rds of the residents thought Kyle was already guilty of something prior to the trial.

and 33% of those people said that NOTHING during the trial could change their mind

There's just no way Kyle got 18 potential jurors without getting at least one activist

which opens another bag of worms from Barnes (former Rittenhouse lawyer who's been on Rekieta's stream panel)... the fact that jury selection only took 1 day
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2033 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:37 am to
Rekeita Law going live at 11:00am.

Can wait here: Kyle Rittenhouse LIVE Jury Deliberations Day 3 - Waiting for the End to Come

ETA: 11:00am Easter/10:00am Central
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 9:42 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146457 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:38 am to
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Rekeita Law going live at 11:00am.

Can wait here: Kyle Rittenhouse LIVE Jury Deliberations Day 3 - Waiting for the End to Come

11 AM Eastern/10 AM Central*
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24790 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:38 am to
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the fact that jury selection only took 1 day


It took 11 days in the Arbery case, I think.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23851 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:39 am to
The defense said they know if it’s a mistrial the state will prosecute again.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26339 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:39 am to
Based on the handwriting and the way things are worded, juror 54 is the foreperson and appears to be a female
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:39 am to
quote:

quote:
The poise and discipline he displayed with that gun, as a 17 year old kid under attack from older hardened criminals in what had to be a very frightening ordeal, was nothing short of remarkable.


Heroic.


Yes but can he survive a radical left legal system?
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