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re: Kushner updated disclosure to add more than 100 foreign contacts: report
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:24 pm to 9th life
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:24 pm to 9th life
quote:Yes.
I am genuinely asking, is that common practice to amend the disclosure form after the fact?
And no, I'm not talking out my arse.
It's actually pretty common. I'm not saying that as an excuse in THIS case.
Just answering our question.
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:25 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
100 is a lot.
Based on what?
And you are assuming these are actual contacts and not just a big list of people to cover his arse.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:25 pm to Hawkeye95
So he is complying with the law?
This is news?
This is news?
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:26 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:Daunting is being very kind.
I know I started security paperwork and it was daunting.
It's like the government said to itself, "how can make this shite as absurdly cumbersome as possible?
Then, when someone said, "hey, here's how"........the govt said, "frick that..........too simple.......next!"
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:26 pm to 9th life
quote:
I am genuinely asking, is that common practice to amend the disclosure form after the fact?
The genuine answer is yes.
I worked for the DOJ. Amendment of disclosures is common practice. If you want an additional confirmation, even from a liberal source, NPR had a big story on this and even they had to admit that a disclosure being amended is common practice.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:27 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Yes. And no, I'm not talking out my arse. It's actually pretty common. I'm not saying that as an excuse in THIS case. Just answering our question.
Appreciate it.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:27 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
100 foreign contacts
Ah, so you're a xenophobe? The word 'foreign' is a dog whistle. You need to change your title pronto to 'international.'
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:27 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
100 is a lot. Based on what?
Well. To be fair. 100 is probably a lot if compared to all who fill out the forms.
But, it may not be quite as many when we're talking about people who have international ties as a matter of course due to what they've done for a living.
I mean, I wouldn't have 100 even if I forgot every contact I ever had.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:28 pm to 9th life
quote:
I am genuinely asking, is that common practice to amend the disclosure form after the fact?
Per Lucky Tiger
quote:
Even NPR admits that these disclosures are updated and amended all the time.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:30 pm to the808bass
quote:Fair enough, and there is likely some grey area that fall under "safe rather the sorry." I'm sure many fit under that area, so "required" is too strong.
But you said all 100 were required by law. We don't know that.
That said, with what we know about the one disclosure, I don't think it rational to assume the remaining 100 are all in that grey area. Maybe they are, but that's not a rational apriori assumption considering what we do know.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:30 pm to Hawkeye95
Why is his SF86 being made public when a Non disclosure agreement is signed
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:31 pm to Jbird
quote:
That's not how this works, unless you hired someone that knows every foreigner a-hole you have met. Knows your address for the last twelve years. The date of birth of all your siblings and death, what county city and state they were born in. Oh let's throw in all your in laws data. Hope there isn't a divorce in the mix with any of these people. It goes on and on.
Sure, kushner is going to have to help with this. But as I recall, there were pages and pages and pages of complete bullshite and basic autobiographical stuff.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:33 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
That said, with what we know about the one disclosure, I don't think it rational to assume the remaining 100 are all in that grey area. Maybe they are, but that's not a rational apriori assumption considering what we do know.
We know three disclosures were missing, and potentially relevant.
the meeting last year
the meeting with kisylak
the meeting with VEB.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:33 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:I am sure he got an assist, but yeah it's pages and pages of personal data. I got a call from an old grade school teacher wanting to know WTF I did after he got the meet in greet from the investigators. BTW I never put his name down on any forms.
But as I recall, there were pages and pages and pages of complete bullshite and basic autobiographical stuff.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:34 pm to ShortyRob
quote:I would like to know how many disclosures he listed originally. If he initially listed 1000 than 100 additions are a lot more reasonable than an initial listing of 100.
But, it may not be quite as many when we're talking about people who have international ties as a matter of course due to what they've done for a living.
I would also be curious about the disclosures someone like Rex Tillerson, who undoubtedly had numerous contacts, maybe even more. Did he have to add a bunch too? He would serve as a good baseline since he seems like an honest and credible person.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:35 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
He would serve as a good baseline since he seems like an honest and credible person.
he is only honest in comparison the dumpster that is the trump admin.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:36 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:If they released his data within twenty minutes someone would come forward saying he played in a round of golf in 1989 therefore Tillerson is a liar.
I would also be curious about the disclosures someone like Rex Tillerson, who undoubtedly had numerous contacts, maybe even more. Did he have to add a bunch too? He would serve as a good baseline since he seems like an honest and credible person.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:36 pm to Hawkeye95
Well at least by comparison. Kushner also has a family history that doesn't do him any favors (his father).
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:37 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
Politicians lie. I don't like it, but unfortunately that's how it is.
To harp on this is a waste of time.
I can list dozens of lies from every president going back to WW2.
So you are okay with the swamp being the swamp.
Despite what the Donald promised.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:38 pm to TennesseeFan25
quote:
Trump is the liar in chief though...
Meanwhile the clock is ticking for the next Trump advisor/colleague/relative to admit that he/she also met with Russian officials regarding the election.
Because you know there are more.
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