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re: Kristol endorses Mamdani, what a shocker

Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:39 pm to
Lol. Compared to a confused man on a beer can or a restaurant changing their logo, I'd say the demolition of the east wing is a pretty good reason to get upset.

Back when people were tearing down statues of confederates I saw conservatives losing their shite because history is important. But tearing down part of the Whitehouse apparently doesn't count as history? Funny how that works lol.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
154432 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:39 pm to
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30 years ago this guy was considered a great conservative
No, he was always seen as an east coast Rino. His father was big in the original neocon movement

Now John McCain? In the 80s he was actually seen as a conservative, as was - I kid you not - Ted Turner
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
6049 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:51 am to
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But tearing down part of the Whitehouse apparently doesn't count as history?

Renovating the most useless part of the WH to build a need, one that many admins wanted, is nothing to get your panties in a wad over. Especially when it's not on the taxpayers dime.

You people act like it's a part George Washington built with his bare hands.

This is nothing like what was behind the bringing down of the Confederate statues. Those were brought down due to political hate. The WH being renovated for the better is not.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 4:52 am
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16557 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:08 am to
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republicans lost their shite when Canada merely played a clip of Reagan


You support killing people over their views and mutilating children but want to talk about losing the plot? Its remarkable how stupid half the country is
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 5:12 am
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16984 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:08 am to
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Lol. Compared to a confused man on a beer can or a restaurant changing their logo, I'd say the demolition of the east wing is a pretty good reason to get upset.

Back when people were tearing down statues of confederates I saw conservatives losing their shite because history is important. But tearing down part of the Whitehouse apparently doesn't count as history? Funny how that works lol.



This is such a load of crap. It's a renovation which requires some demolition. You know that, you're just being disingenuous
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15489 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:02 am to
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Reagan didn't support huge tarriffs


Reagan Imposes 100% Tariffs on Japan
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20676 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:14 am to
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Not sure why this is tripping yall up. Literally Noone in the republican party was screaming for massive tarrifs til Trump came along.

You’re right.

The GOPe and NeoCons went all in with NAFTA claiming “free trade!” when in reality all of those nations were exploiting the average American via trade restrictions and domestic corporations wait to exploit lower labor costs overseas.

So all the jobs got shifted overseas while the Bill Kristol class kept getting paid by K Street lobbyists who wanted foreign wars and cheap domestic goods.

So Trump comes along and all the sudden Trump voters are cultist socialists for wanting to reindustrialize and not send their kids off to die in some desert so the MIC can launch missiles and Exxon can get a couple oil field contracts.

Now in 2025, Kristol is exposed and humiliated to the point of endorsing a radical communist jihadist and you’re trying to throw him air cover.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 6:16 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42897 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:21 am to
Never thought much of this clown. Now I know why. Complete and total fraud.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42332 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:36 am to
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To be fair the modern day republican party would rip apart basically any republican from the 70s to the 2010's.


The party moved to the left since 2010.

It is now populism, with a twist of conservatism.

That is not what I grew up with.

Relative to the goose-steppers running the other side of the aisle, even this weak branded conservatism looks “far right.”

Tue communazis run the show in the Democratic Party now.

It’s where things currently stand.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27619 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:53 am to
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Quite the opposite. He knows how to get paid. His days with the GOP were over and he found another buyer


Bingo.

Go watch Tucker Carlson from 2005-2010 timeframe compared to now.

Some of these folks, like a Limbaugh and Maddow are/were really committed to their beliefs, whether one agrees with them or not. Then there's the Carlson and Kristol types. Kind of like what James Carville once said about dragging a dollar bill through a trailer park.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 7:07 am
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101647 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:07 am to
Comparing Tuckers political evolution with Bill Kristols is disgusting.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101647 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:09 am to
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This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 7:10 am
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
456 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:38 am to
It might not be out of hate. But when you come out and say you aren't touching the Whitehouse then the next week you tear down the east wing people are going to get pissed. If obama did it, the first 100 pages of this forum would be dedicated to it.
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
456 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:45 am to
Not sure how else to put this.

Reagan imposed serious tarriffs on a single country with a specific goal in mind. He said he did it as an absolute last resort and hated doing it.

Trump imposed wide ranging tarriffs on damn near every country on earth without any specific goal ever announced and without ever considering the affects. He did this so carelessly that we tarriffed an island inhabited by penguins.

Canada used reagans own words. I know that's upsetting for you. I won't even go into what he said on immigration cause I don't want to cause you any more distress.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94815 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:45 am to
What about Liz Cheney or Adam Kinzinger? Are they in the, "Anybody but the Republican" camp (meaning Cuomo) or Mamdani as well?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94815 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:47 am to
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Canada used reagans own words.


If tariffs are bad when we do it to Canada, why is it good when Canada does it to us?

I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57015 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:55 am to
Back in the 90's. Kristol was pretty good. Did outstanding work in fighting Hiillarycare and provided much of the intellectual heft for conservatives to fight it. It's been so long people don't understand what a big deal stopping Hillarycare was.

He started the Weekly Standard and although it was a neocon bent, I enjoyed some of the writers such as Fred Barnes. It was a respectable conservative rag. Not as aggressive as the American Spectator but respectable.

Then after 9/11, things started changing as Bill started moving leftwards. Military adventures etc. Then when Trump won in 2016, it broke him. He and others could not believe this New York Buffoon (their thoughts) became President and took over their sandbox, I mean party. National Review eventually came around and applauds Trump when it thinks he does something right.

However, Kristol went full retard. The Bill Kristol of the 90's would have never backed the nut in New York.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16347 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:58 am to
New Yorkers are going to vote this incompetent, amateur, socialist activist as mayor of New York just to “get back at Trump”.

If they want to suffer that bad. I guess it’s their will.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9818 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:59 am to
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Kristol has lost his mind.


TDS broke him.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28176 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:03 am to
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You only need to look at how republicans lost their shite when Canada merely played a clip of Reagan in his own words to see how far they've lost the plot.



Oh, do you mean the clip of Reagan's speech justifying tariffs against Japan that Canada douchilly presented as anti-tariff?
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