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Posted on 10/5/25 at 9:20 am to stout
Posted on 10/5/25 at 9:43 am to SallysHuman
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I'll have to figure out how to find that... but I think a lot was hung on an attorney's statement that was denied by the admin.
The key was the Administration never denied it under oath, IN COURT. That's what the disconnect is between me and most people on this board.
There is the politics of deportation, about which we agree. The Autopen Adimistration tried to ruin our country by letting in MILLIONS of illegal aliens. ALL illegal aliens should be deported. Trump has done a GREAT job with the border, and is trying his best to deport as many illegals as possible.
Then there are the legal questions. Here, there simply isn't even a legal theory as to how Abrego Garcia could have been legally removed to El Salvador (he could have been deported ANYWHERE else) as long as the 2019 Trump Immigration Judge's order remained in effect. The Administration never even tried to make that legal argument IN COURT.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 9:48 am to Jbird
You didn't think this post was crowing? I was happy to hear that Abrego Garcia was getting deported finally. I thought the 2019 Trump Immigration Judge made a mistake in preventing his deportation to El Salvador.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 9:51 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:Which part of this thread is crowing?
You didn't think this post was crowing?
Oh I get it, some dude.
This post was edited on 10/5/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 10/5/25 at 9:54 am to Jbird
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Which part of this thread is crowing?
Thanks for correcting me! I was wrong. I always thought that crowing included celebration. In looking it up, I see that it is just "exuding self-importance."
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:04 am to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:04 am to IvoryBillMatt
Didn't he already get shipped to Eswatini?
I think he's already gone.
If so, Trump better not bring this criminal back.
I think he's already gone.
If so, Trump better not bring this criminal back.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:09 am to Champagne
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The Radical Left decided to conquer the USA decades ago. The first American institution they conquered was the Educational system. The second one that they conquered was the US Judicial system.
Yes and they also conquered the media. The judiciary still has a chance but the education system is lost unless we get masses of conservatives to anger academia which isn’t happening.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:26 am to SallysHuman
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Whatever comes of this, maybe the government learns that moving forward, premature celebrations aren't a good strategy.
What I *don't* understand is how ANY of this would preclude Kilmar's expulsion from this country. Facts are facts, no matter which government official says or acts about it. He doesn't belong here, period.
You may be thinking these judges are acting in good faith, and applying the law. They're not. They would find some way to issue an order to not deport him regardless of what the administration said. It might be good not to say anything but the main reason is so they just don't know what is being done.
Also, this is a colossal waste of time and money but it is very important. If he can be deported, that sends an important message. If he gets to stay, regardless of whatever BS they cook up to support it, that conveys that the immigration system is still broken and can be gamed.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 10:36 am to TigerIron
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You may be thinking these judges are acting in good faith, and applying the law. They're not. They would find some way to issue an order to not deport him regardless of what the administration said.
I agree with this. I do not think the judges are acting in good faith, not at all.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:35 am to SallysHuman
Sallys...why isn't Abrego Garcia being deported to El Salvador this time around?
This post was edited on 10/5/25 at 11:37 am
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:37 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Sallys...why wasn't Abrego Garcia deported to El Salvador this time around?
I don't know. I only follow and read up on this when it's posted on here... and I'm no attorney or agent of the government. All I got is google and an armchair.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:39 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Where are you getting the detail that the passenger were women?
The videotape from the traffic stop.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:40 am to Privateer 2007
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How many man hours have we wasted on this a-hole?
The left is hoping that by successfully defending the WORST a-hole, that the government will just give up on deporting the minor assholes.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:41 am to SallysHuman
Understood!
Lol. Our pastor's sermon today was on not trying to always be the wise guy. I was going to set you up to show that the Administration knows it would be a mistake to deport him to El Salvador.
I hereby repent. Cheers
Lol. Our pastor's sermon today was on not trying to always be the wise guy. I was going to set you up to show that the Administration knows it would be a mistake to deport him to El Salvador.
I hereby repent. Cheers
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:42 am to Riverside
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The videotape from the traffic stop.
Thanks. I missed that part. The version I saw showed saw the man who was the front seat passenger.
This post was edited on 10/5/25 at 11:51 am
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:45 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Lol. Our pastor's sermon today was on not trying to always be the wise guy. I was going to set you up to show that the Administration knows it would be a mistake to deport him to El Salvador.
Solly, cholly.... you'll get me next time.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:48 am to SallysHuman
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Solly, cholly.... you'll get me next time.
Lol. I think the point from John was that we get OURSELVES in lusting after being right.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:50 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Lol. I think the point from John was that we get OURSELVES in lusting after being right.
This is honestly a big problem for me, personally... as I'm sure many posters have figured out. Gotta draw a good line between being right vs being righteous.
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