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Kennedy: ‘When the Berlin Wall Fell, Who Ran to Which Side? Socialism Is for Morons’

Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:30 pm
In the sixties a common news story would be about East Germans trying to run the barb wire and later ‘the wall’ - most of ‘em were shot.

Some left to rot as an example to others who thought they could escape communism. Killing people trying to escape commie hellholes IS the norm for that stupid choice.

If anyone wants to live in a commie hellhole we should give them a free one way ticket to any commie country in the world (in exchange for them giving up their citizenship here...) and wish them well.

Why are COMMUNIST and MARXIST Aligning With DEMOCRATS?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:46 pm to
The great debate between the USA vs. USSR on their home stage about 1980 was great. Each team had one question that slaughtered the other side who had no answer.
US win: 'If communism is so great why do you build walls to keep people in?'
USSR win: 'If capitalism rewards work then why do you pay people not to work? (welfare)"
This post was edited on 9/26/26 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
133173 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:48 pm to
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'If capitalism rewards work then why do you pay people not to work?


Thats not capitalism

Thats socialism

Our country hasnt been pure free market capitalism in over a century
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483727 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:50 pm to
That's why it's so important to push back towards free market capitalism and remove government influence from all levels of the market.

Otherwise you end up just adding more government to fix the problems, it fails, and then you need MORE government to fix the problems, and you're in the socialist doom loop.

The intervention people who value freedom should always be more scared of is the intervention/regulation promised to be temporary to achieve the purported goal. Like socialist titties, that will enslave yo arse.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
27045 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:51 pm to
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USSR win: 'If capitalism rewards work then why do you pay people not to work? (welfare)"


Some people just do not work physically but they do work the system that has been set up to buy votes.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4721 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:03 pm to
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Our country hasnt been pure free market capitalism in over a century


OSHA
EPA
FDA
FAA
ISO
Construction/Building Standards

A “pure” capitalist market sounds elegant in theory, but in practice it produces the same outcomes every time. Without regulation, companies prioritize profit over safety, environmental responsibility, and public health because the system rewards cutting costs, not safeguarding the public.

No company is going to voluntarily invest in wastewater treatment, worker protections, or safety engineering when the cheaper alternative is cutting corners.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63428 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:06 pm to
Why aren’t you considering why so many Americans are enamored with an ideology like this? Such a colossal failure of our government and society to drive regular Americans to beg for any alternative to the broken system imposed on us now.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100791 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:08 pm to
Because you Dems have created a generation of participation trophy ppl

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36828 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:13 pm to
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Thats not capitalism

Thats socialism

Our country hasnt been pure free market capitalism in over a century



Correct, to our detriment.
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
4281 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:35 pm to
A colossal failure? Really? You are incredibly ignorant thinking our economy over the life of our country is a failure. But of course being a democrat who wants a government that will provide you with everything you need is typical. But the problem is, who pays for it? In a socialist economy, you would be on the bottom tier of the socialist class system. Why do people all over the world want to come to this country? Because they see an opportunity to make something of themselves verses the gimme attitude of some people that want everything provided to them. You have the freedom to become prosperous and live a life that so many people of other countries could not achieve. A colossal failure. What a ridiculous statement on your part.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
90483 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:43 pm to
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USSR win: 'If capitalism rewards work then why do you pay people not to work? (welfare)"


welfare is supposed to be temporary
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
118228 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:44 pm to
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hats not capitalism
Thats socialism
Our country hasnt been pure free market capitalism in over a century


Correct, but the topic of the debate ( a series of 3 or 4 around USSR colleges) was: 'Capitalism vs. Socialism.' So, the US debaters couldn't answer the question with: 'Well, we're actually a bit communist like you.'
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29375 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:45 pm to
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That's why it's so important to push back towards free market capitalism and remove government influence from all levels of the market.

Free market capitalism with workers organization rights as well. We should all be able to benefit from a strong capitalist system.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90483 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:46 pm to
welfare is not a system of government, it is a temporary safety program for the less fortunate

welfare abuse is a whole other topic
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29375 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:47 pm to
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No company is going to voluntarily invest in wastewater treatment, worker protections, or safety engineering when the cheaper alternative is cutting corners.

All you mean is that capitalism is best when government merely prevents the externalization of the true cost of production. Externalization is not a necessary component of a strong capitalist system.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63428 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:52 pm to
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Because you Dems have created a generation of participation trophy ppl

You are incapable of taking responsibility or not being a victim. Typical man. Nothing is your fault. You are a victim of low T men, women, and trannies that you spend all day ridiculing on an anonymous message board.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
63428 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:58 pm to
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A colossal failure? Really? You are incredibly ignorant thinking our economy over the life of our country is a failure.


First of all, that’s not what I said. Read the post you replied to and actually respond to what was posted.

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But of course being a democrat who wants a government that will provide you with everything you need is typical.
WTF are you talking about? What did I say the government should provide?
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Why do people all over the world want to come to this country? Because they see an opportunity to make something of themselves verses the gimme attitude of some people that want everything provided to them
and you are literally incapable of considering that millions of Americans who are fed up with the corruption in front of their faces. Your emotions force you to believe that they are just lazy and don’t want to work. Bless your heart.
This post was edited on 9/26/26 at 5:00 pm
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2977 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 5:00 pm to
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USSR win: 'If capitalism rewards work then why do you pay people not to work? (welfare)"


That doesn’t slaughter the capitalism side. All that does is point out an element of socialism in our free enterprise system. If anything, it’s a self-slaughter on their part.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100791 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 5:05 pm to
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You are incapable of taking responsibility or not being a victim


How am I not taking responsibilty? My daughter knows what a women is and she doesnt want to split the bill on dates
She knows if you aint first then your last and the participation trophies are for karens like yourself

How am I victim?

quote:

Nothing is your fault.


How would you raising liberal weak children and teaching them that participation trophies are good be my fault?
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
5589 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 5:09 pm to
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welfare is supposed to be temporary

And that’s why God gave us 16 hours a day to work. Sure it’s hard but it’s a strong motivator.


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