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re: Kavanaugh sides with the class action trial lawyer protectors on SCOTUS
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:46 am to SquatchDawg
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:46 am to SquatchDawg
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Exactly. The underlying issues are irrelevant. You should be able to sue anyone you want. Why should Apple get protection?
Now...whether the suit is remotely successful is a whole other issue.
Yeah. Now that I read more, I'm going to need IB to explain the catastrophe here
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:46 am to LSUFanHouston
What standing do they have if Apple is not receiving all the money for the app???
They are simply operating a store of apps that can be used with their IP--IOS.
How are they limiting APPs or creating a monopoly? There are thousands of apps on the Apple store. Many of the apps compete with Apple's own resident apps on the IOS like calendar and mail.
They are simply operating a store of apps that can be used with their IP--IOS.
How are they limiting APPs or creating a monopoly? There are thousands of apps on the Apple store. Many of the apps compete with Apple's own resident apps on the IOS like calendar and mail.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:46 am to I B Freeman
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Apple does not set the prices the developers charge for apps.
They merely offer a store for developers to market their goods not unlike WalMart stocking merchandise.
You very clearly have absolutely no idea how the appstore works.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:47 am to I B Freeman
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How are they limiting APPs or creating a monopoly? There are thousands of apps on the Apple store. Many of the apps compete with Apple's own resident apps on the IOS like calendar and mail.
You do realize KAV didn't render a decision on the merits of the case, right?
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:48 am to ShortyRob
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You do realize KAV didn't render a decision on the merits of the case, right?
No. He doesn't. Nor does anyone else screaming at the sky in this thread.
Most people agree about SCOTUS rulings don't even understand what the ruling was
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 10:49 am
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:49 am to TOSOV
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Why get an Apple product if you don't want the security it has in place?
The solution seems to me for apple to revise their operating system to accommodate unapproved apps but make the user agree to new terms using the unapproved apps.
I'm a little aggravated that Apple doesn't carry the GAB app. There is no reason for them to exclude GAB. They just do it to cock block Twitter competition.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:49 am to Nguyener
TRIAL LAWYERS OMG OH NOZ
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:50 am to Nguyener
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No. He doesn't. Nor does anyone else screaming at the sky in this thread.
I mean. I'm guessing the argument against Apple is that Apple tightly controls who can sell on their appstore and that there are no 3rd parties who can sell apps to use on Apple products without Apple permission.
Will that meet the standard once this thing goes to court? Dunno.
But it ain't fricking WalMart
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 10:51 am
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:50 am to LSUFanHouston
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Does Apple charge my CC,
Yes but they pay the developer keeping only a fee for processing and store profits.
They don't limit access or create a monopoly.
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Does Apple even ALLOW developers to sell directly to the customer?
They let develops give away apps.
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No, the simple solution is for Apple to allow customers to use the phone any way they wish
Why? You buy the phone knowing the apps you want will have to work with IOS just like when you buy a android. IOS apps will not work on those phones.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:51 am to Nguyener
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You very clearly have absolutely no idea how the appstore works.
Explain the difference.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:52 am to I B Freeman
quote:Which, I'm sure will be argued in court and, perhaps Apple will win.
Yes but they pay the developer keeping only a fee for processing and store profits.
They don't limit access or create a monopoly.
quote:Which I'm sure will be argued in court and, perhaps Apple will win.
Why? You buy the phone knowing the apps you want will have to work with IOS just like when you buy a android. IOS apps will not work on those phones.
KAV didn't rule on the merits.
Your panties are in a wad for no reason
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:52 am to I B Freeman
quote:Jeebus frickin Christ
Explain the difference.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:54 am to Muleriderhog
Looks like I got educated on this one - I think I agree with the majority of you and Kavanaigh after hearing more
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:54 am to I B Freeman
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What standing do they have if Apple is not receiving all the money for the app???
They are simply operating a store of apps that can be used with their IP--IOS.
How are they limiting APPs or creating a monopoly? There are thousands of apps on the Apple store. Many of the apps compete with Apple's own resident apps on the IOS like calendar and mail.
That sounds like a bunch of issues that need to considered AT TRIAL.
I'm not ready, nor do I have the tech understanding, to say if Apple should be held liable here.
At trial, Apple will have plenty of chances to say why they should not be held liable. But to say that they shouldn't even have to defend themselves in court, no, I'm not willing to go that far. Too many unknowns.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:55 am to Muleriderhog
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He's a constitutionalist. Every supreme court justice should be like Kavanaugh, he puts the constitution before his own opinion and is easily the best justice we have.
Well, actually, Kavanaugh isn't much of a scholar. What we will all see over time is that his mental weakness will make for some strange and possibly disruptive opinions.
That's always been my knock on Kavanaugh. He doesn't have the intellectual horsepower to sit on the Supreme Court.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:56 am to ShortyRob
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You do realize KAV didn't render a decision on the merits of the case, right?
He expanded the use of the Sherman Anti Trust Act allowing it to be applied to third parties.
If you buy a non Apple mail app on the apple store who is liable for it's performance? Not Apple. The transaction responsibility is with the developer.
How could they possibly be punishing a consumer with monopolistic practices by simply operating a store with the goods of thousands of developers?
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:57 am to I B Freeman
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How so??? Apple does not set the prices the developers charge for apps.
They merely offer a store for developers to market their goods not unlike WalMart stocking merchandise.
The trial lawyers wanted the deep pockets of Apple and not the rinky dinky pockets of some kid that invented a new IOS app.
What monopoly is there?? None I see.
The simple solution for Apple is just to close the store and only offer free apps they develop.
Dude, all this ruling was is that apple can be sued, who wins is up for debate and I think apple will. However, anybody should be able to be sued, apple shouldnt be exempted from that.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:57 am to TBoy
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Well, actually, Kavanaugh isn't much of a scholar
Resident moron TBoy has shown up
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:58 am to I B Freeman
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Litigation is out of control.
Now Kavanaugh is saying that consumers can advance an anti trust class action lawsuit against Apple.
The conservatives were against it and the liberals including Kavanuagh and RBG were for it.
You are batting a 1000% right now on being wrong!
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:58 am to I B Freeman
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He expanded the use of the Sherman Anti Trust Act allowing it to be applied to third parties
No he didn't.
You seem to think that this case has already been decided.
All he, and 4 other justices did, is say, hey, let's let the case proceed and see where it goes.
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