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Karl Marx was on the British Payroll. Think Marxism is German? Think Brussels and London!!

Posted on 5/2/26 at 11:29 am
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 11:29 am
Do not ever believe England is interested in what is best for the United States of America. England is only interested in control. Thank God England has lost!!



Before a back-and-forth about LaRouche fills the thread, how about a look at Marx in London?

Of course, he's buried in Highgate Cemetery, London.... So ---

"As we have seen, it was in 1848 (Va) that the German social philosophers Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels published the Communist Manifesto, calling for the workers of the world to unite and overthrow the capitalist system. Because of the revolutions which broke out across Europe later that year, Marx was obliged to take refuge in London. There he became the virtual leader of the First International, organised by the International Workers’ Association in 1864. Under his guidance this organisation flourished, but in 1871 he came out strongly in favour of the Paris Commune of that year, and this brought into the open the deep divisions within the movement. He managed to defeat the anarchists who, led by the German socialist Mikhail Bakunin, wished to take direct action against the capitalist governments, but this brought about the collapse of the International in 1876. Meanwhile Marx spent long hours writing up his major work Das Kapital (Capital), the first volume of which was published in 1867. In this he argued that the capitalist system made the bourgeoisie progressively wealthy by exploiting the working man, forcing him to labour long for little reward. It was inevitable, he claimed, that the working class would overthrow capitalism by violent means and introduce a communist system based on common ownership of the means of production and a classless society. Marx died in 1883 and it was left to his collaborator Friedrich Engels to edit his friend's notes and produce the additional two volumes in 1885 and 1894. Marx was one of the most influential socialist thinkers of all time, and his theories, inciting as they did a class struggle, were to have an enormous impact upon the history of the 20th century in Europe and, given time, across most parts of the world."
KARL MARX - HIS LIFE IN LONDON 1849 - 1883

And in the few years before? He was already in exile in Belgium, 1845.
Lived in Brussels from February 1845 to March 1848 He celebrated New Year's Eve 1847/1848 together with the "Deutscher Arbeiterverein” and the “Association Democratique" in this place
in the Grand Place in Bruxelles in Bruxelles-Capitale, Brussels, Belgium Historcal Marker Database.

So he was in Belgium in 1847-48 when his and Engels' manifesto was published. And 4 March 1848, he was arrested and exiled to England,
Think Marxism is German? Think Brussels and think London, given the locations of his "work."
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 11:32 am to
Yeah ... I read that last week. It's a good read and well sourced.

Not sure that I would put it all on the Brits because Germany and Russia definitely had a hand in it ... but yeah, the Brits, MI6 and MI7, were everybit the twatwaffles that our CIA has been proven to be, at times, since both's inception.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 11:36 am to
Professor jiang was talking about this too
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 11:38 am to
The entire crew spent nearly 75 years just circling between Germany, Sweden, London, and NYC.
Posted by Rip Torner
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 11:40 am to
Whether Karl Marx was a British asset is irrelevant, Erich von Ludendorff snuck Vladimir Lenin into Russia to bring down the Czar and bring Russia out of WW1 which solidified the Soviet revolution. So yes, the Germans are responsible for the Communist revolution
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 11:50 am to
Communism creeping up inside Germany is also what ruined Germany's chances in ww1. it was largely supported by Jews. Its why Hitler and the socialist party later pushed communism out and why they blamed the Jews for the downfall of Germany.
Normal every day Germans had to make a choice between anti-establishment communism and Germany first socialism. And without knowing how crazy/evil Hitler would become , you can see why the people were so excited to see someone pushing back against the commies.
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 11:50 am to
The central powers funded and flooded Russia with it socialist outcasts with great success. Lenin, Trotsky, Radek…
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 11:51 am to
Sad to think that we were already controlled way back then


If we would’ve just stayed out of ww1 the world would be a better place today
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 12:31 pm to
The British Royal family aren’t even British.

They’re a German noble family that changed their name after taking the throne.

And if you look into the events surrounding the Napoleonic Wars they became massively leveraged and had to make major concessions to their lenders to avoid insolvency.

Then when you look at who their lenders in that war were and what their agenda has been globally since that point the obvious conclusion is that while MI6 and the British Royal family are pieces on a global chessboard, they aren’t really calling the shots.
Posted by jizzle6609
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 12:35 pm to
He’s Jewish, the country of his origin doesn’t matter.
This post was edited on 5/2/26 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 12:35 pm to
There were people who didn’t know that Marx and Engels were in exile for the vast majority of their work?
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Erich von Ludendorff snuck Vladimir Lenin into Russia to bring down the Czar and bring Russia out of WW1 which solidified the Soviet revolution. So yes, the Germans are responsible for the Communist revolution


And then ironically turned around and started wW2 because they wanted to stop the spread of Bolshevism. Hitlers entire support by the German people was due to fear of the communists and him pointing the finger at Jews pulling those strings

Europe will explode again once the Muslim problem reaches a tipping point. They created the problem allowing them in and they’ll end up fighting a war to drive them out
Posted by Gus007
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 1:45 pm to
Who controls Britains money.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 1:51 pm to
Marxism does not have a nationality. Neither does capitalism. Those who are believing in this Promethean nonsense are know-nothings. The British have not been controlling the world - at least not since 1939.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Wildcat1996
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 1:57 pm to
Marx has been dead almost 150 years. The notion that we should be blaming the Brits for Marxist ideas permeating US institutions in the 21st century because a guy who never saw the 20th moved to the UK and died there is preposterous.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 2:09 pm to
The Monroe Doctrine.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

they became massively leveraged and had to make major concessions to their lenders to avoid insolvency.

Sic: The Rothschilds.

The Rothschilds made bank during the Napolianic Wars.
quote:

The Rothschild family is a wealthy Ashkenazi Jewish banking dynasty originally from Frankfurt, Germany, that rose to prominence in the 18th and 19th centuries.  Founded by Mayer Amschel Rothschild, who established banking houses in five major European capitals (London, Paris, Frankfurt, Vienna, and Naples) through his five sons, the family once held the largest private fortune in the world. 
This post was edited on 5/2/26 at 2:43 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 2:26 pm to
And who was the biggest advocate for the creation of the modern state of Israel?

And who has controlled global banking and since that time?

And spare me the “Jews! You’re antisemitic!”. That family and their partners aren’t actually Jewish. If anything they worship Ba’al so pointing out objective facts has nothing to do with the religion of the people involved.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 2:53 pm to
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And who was the biggest advocate for the creation of the modern state of Israel?

Theodor Herzl? Chaim Weizmann? David Ben-Gurion?

I'd argue Herzi was but some might claim Weizmann or Ben-Gurion. Although, it's hard to argue the fact that, on the day Ben-Gurion declared independence from the British, he had a big portrait of Herzi on the wall behind him.

Or are you referring to The British and their advocacy for, ""A national home for the Jewish people."? Which they later regretted once they realized that the Jews wanted total independence.

Exodus is a good book.
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