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re: Kamala calls for ending 1099 employment and banning states from having right to work laws

Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:54 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467560 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:54 am to
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Why would a Dem flirting with Union baws be surprising to you?

Orange is trying to win.


This is another one of those threads where we (and Bunk) are going to agree and the southern "conservative" archetypes are going to freak out on us.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125705 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:54 am to
It’s not forced unionism. What a dumb graphic.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94112 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:55 am to
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Orange walks a fine line when talking to those guys. He can't say too much about being pro-labor, so he usually says if you vote Dem, you'll be out of a job.


Stable Genius move. All the other side does is lie so Im fine if orange is doing the same to win
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:56 am to
It is wild watching the heads of these unions support Dems and the rank and file are Trump guys.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62804 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:01 am to
I like being a 1099 "employee." Allows me to write off stuff I wouldn't otherwise be able to write off as a W-2 employee.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109794 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:02 am to
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This may be a regional thing, but in the South, the political association has nothing to do with it. The Southern economic conservative typically sees unions as the economic enemy. The political part is lagniappe.


I think this regional distinction is probably just mostly a function of what it takes (or historically took) to get and hold a blue collar type job - nothing more, nothing less.

In the North union membership was often necessary, whereas in the South it largely wasn’t and workers there were generally happy with their situations without it.

I don’t get what the gotcha is here.
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 8:03 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467560 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:05 am to
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I think this regional distinction is probably just mostly a function of what it takes (or historically took) to get and hold a blue collar type job - nothing more, nothing less.

In the North union membership was often necessary, whereas in the South it largely wasn’t and workers there were generally happy with their situations here without it.

I don't disagree. I almost added in a part about the South's economic rise was on the back of companies leaving union shop states and opening factories in right to work states. It's what we know and how we identify economic opportunity (as opposed to the opposite view in the Midwest/Northeast).

Given the population posting, and the lack of conflict, I didn't think my typical over-explaining was necessary, for the record.

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I don’t get what the gotcha is here.

There was no gotcha.

The non-Southern posters sometimes need slight clarification on Southern culture.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109794 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:07 am to
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There was no gotcha.


I guess I’m just not getting how you are trying to tie this into some sort of disparagement of “MAGA.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467560 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:10 am to
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I guess I’m just not getting how you are trying to tie this into some sort of disparagement of “MAGA.”

Nothing about that particular post had anything to do with MAGA.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109794 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:12 am to
I took that as the whole underlying theme of your involvement in this thread. Whatever.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15534 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:13 am to
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I like being a 1099 "employee." Allows me to write off stuff I wouldn't otherwise be able to write off as a W-2 employee.


That’s precisely why they want it banned
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29376 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:13 am to
That is about as un-American as anything else that dumb bitch has said. There are millions of people in this country who do a little work on the side as 1099 filers.

Between the wife and me, we file over a dozen 1099s each year, and there simply isn't a union for every fricking job under the sun.

I happen to be a union member by choice. I absolutely believe that's how it should be - a CHOICE.

I thought Dems were all about CHOICE - as long as that choice ends up with a dead baby.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9513 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:15 am to
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The biggest issue IMO is a great deal of folks have terminal TDS and will be voting against Trump no matter what


TDS is a very real phenomenon

I have a family member who, if you discussion issues without associated candidates, agrees with most of Trumps positions and really disagrees with almost all of Harris’s.

She really hates what Dems did with border, the economy etc…


But she’s still voting Harris because “she’s the lesser of 2 evils”

It’s crazy
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4949 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:20 am to
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My position on this is limited to private companies, though. Public unions are strange to me, and this is coming from the son of a teacher.


I'm with you on this in that I believe private sector unions are not a problem. The company and the union can collectively bargain.

On the other hand, public sector unions should be outlawed. No less than a hero of the Left, FDR, thought government employees should not be permitted to collectively bargain. From the NYT-

"President Franklin Roosevelt wrote that the process of collective bargaining had “insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management.” He believed that the employer of government workers was the people and Congress represented the people in determining government employee pay. In practice, the insurmountable problem with government unions is that there is no effective representative of the people in negotiations."
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94112 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:22 am to
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She really hates what Dems did with border, the economy etc…


But she’s still voting Harris because “she’s the lesser of 2 evils”



This makes sense
Posted by TigerBogue
Red State, USA
Member since May 2006
1000 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:25 am to
frick this bitch and frick anyone stupid enough to vote for her!
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13393 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:19 am to
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My daughter is BCBA. My other is allied health. Insurance has really screwed things up. For the clients and professionals.


That's what I am...didn't mention because no one knows what a BCBA is lol. But yes they have. Me and several colleagues have stopped taking certain payers because they gut our behavior plans to the bone...the equivalent of your healthcare plan coming in and saying your Dr. prescribed the wrong medicine in their opinion... it's insane.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4656 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:04 am to
It is insane. I truly believe our system is out to destroy everything. And that includes once well-paying careers in anything medical related.
Posted by Pitt Road
Mid-Florida
Member since Aug 2017
1103 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:40 am to
What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13393 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:41 am to
You're not wrong... it's their whole charge to find ways NOT to pay for our services, services that have been deemed medically necessary!

I'm set to pay thousands the next few months to bolster my tech and implement generative and reverse AI scrubbing to protect myself against the AI they have implemented to find tiny deficiencies with my documentation and remit payment.

It's wild how much you have to dedicate to non-clinical things to keep your clinics afloat from a system looking to torpedo them.
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