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re: Just in: Trump has cancelled Sunday’s nuclear talks with Iran
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:43 am to Chancellor
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:43 am to Chancellor
Iran's top negotiator is now a resident of Hell.
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 3:49 am to SallysHuman
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Trump a few mins ago "Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb and we hope to return to the negotiating table. We'll see. There are some people in the leadership who won't return."
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What does this mean? I'm not any kind of ME expert. It sounds like it means it is too far-gone for discussions. ??
It means that when Trump withdrew the U.S. from the Iran nuclear deal during his last administration, Trump forfeited US ability to invoke the international sanction snapback provision. If Iran elects not to negotiate, there’s nothing Trump can do. Iran intends to stall Trump until snapback expires in October. The sanctions will expire.
When Trump says “we will see” he literally means that because he unilaterally gave away the leverage that Obama created with the snapback provision.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 3:52 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 4:28 am to DarkDrifter
quote:or something similar ...
I mean an email that says “I told you that you couldn’t have them” will suffice at this point.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 4:45 am to TBoy
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It means that when Trump withdrew the U.S. from the Iran nuclear deal during his last administration, Trump forfeited US ability to invoke the international sanction snapback provision. If Iran elects not to negotiate, there’s nothing Trump can do. Iran intends to stall Trump until snapback expires in October. The sanctions will expire.
you're pathetic. That treaty was garbage and we do not need the permission of a treaty to place sanctions on Iran. quote:
When Trump says “we will see” he literally means that because he unilaterally gave away the leverage that Obama created with the snapback provision.
No, he means Iran may no longer have a nuclear program to discuss.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 4:47 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 5:09 am to Tunasntigers92
frick the rabbis, frick the Persians, frick the whole region. They can't get right, and never will.
Oh, and frick Ukraine, Russia, Pakistan, India and Angel Reese, while I'm at it.
Oh, and frick Ukraine, Russia, Pakistan, India and Angel Reese, while I'm at it.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 5:23 am to TBoy
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When Trump says “we will see”
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:46 am to imjustafatkid
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That treaty was garbage and we do not need the permission of a treaty to place sanctions on Iran.
Sorry you are so uninformed.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:47 am to MrLSU
Yeah, not much to talk about really.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:52 am to TBoy
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Sorry you are so uninformed.
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TBoy
This is rich coming from you of all ppl
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:54 am to RFK
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A U.S.-led invasion of Iran is now justified
Oh, come on...
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:54 am to MrLSU
Nooooooo, really?
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:10 am to MrLSU
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Trump a few mins ago "Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb and we hope to return to the negotiating table. We'll see. There are some people in the leadership who won't return."
There is something very unsettling about this whole situation. We are "negotiating" while our "closest ally" is bombing them and eliminating their government officials and we are supposedly the "good guys" in all this.
Decades ago, we should have offered to help Iran develop nuclear power plants and developed a good relationship with them that they wouldnt want to risk. Instead we threaten to kill them(or actually do) if they dont do what we want.
I dont for a second believe any of the narrative we constantly get about Iran. These arent savages, they actually have a nice country with a large Christian minority that the state recognizes and gives representation to in their government.
Of course they see western ideals as a threat. We supply the bombs and missiles that drop on them. If they hate Jews so much, why do they still have a small community of practicing Jews that live there? Why dont they murder them?
Im not suggesting AT ALL that they are good faith actors...but I am suggesting that we are getting a BIASED one side of the story based off what Israel wants us to believe
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:11 am to TBoy
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TBoy
It means they are not going to have a fricking bomb, which they would not be close to having without your boy obama.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:15 am to TBoy
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When Trump says “we will see” he literally means that because he unilaterally gave away the leverage that Obama created with the snapback provision.
But then you voted for this
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The Biden administration issued a sanctions waiver to allow the transfer of $6 billion in frozen Iranian oil revenues from South Korea to restricted accounts in Qatar.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:18 am to RFK
I knew it. RFK = Miss Lindsey Graham.
frick you Lindsey. I would tell you to eat a dick...but you like that.
frick you Lindsey. I would tell you to eat a dick...but you like that.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:25 am to scottydoesntknow
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I dont for a second believe any of the narrative we constantly get about Iran. These arent savages, they actually have a nice country with a large Christian minority that the state recognizes and gives representation to in their government.
It’s an Islamic state and one of the more repressive ones.
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Political opposition is heavily curtailed. Activists, journalists, and dissidents face imprisonment, torture, or execution. The 2022 Mahsa Amini protests, sparked by her death in custody for violating hijab laws, led to over 500 deaths and 20,000 arrests
All over a woman not wearing a scarf.
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Iran operates under a system of “Velayat-e Faqih” (Guardianship of the Islamic Jurist), where the Supreme Leader (Ayatollah Ali Khamenei since 1989) holds ultimate authority over major state decisions, including foreign policy, military, and judiciary. The unelected Guardian Council vets candidates for elections, severely limiting political pluralism.
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The 2022 Amini protests highlighted widespread resentment against these laws, but the regime doubled down, executing protesters and enacting harsher penalties (e.g., 2023 hijab law with up to 15 years imprisonment).
Nice people, just misunderstood.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:35 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:38 am to scottydoesntknow
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There is something very unsettling about this whole situation. We are "negotiating" while our "closest ally" is bombing them and eliminating their government officials and we are supposedly the "good guys" in all this.
Trump has been clear about Iran better not be "tapping us along". He figured they were, so now they are being forced to make a deal. Ain't that hard. Iranians arent to be trusted, so good move by Trump.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:41 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:09 am to TBoy
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When Trump says “we will see” he literally means that because he unilaterally gave away the leverage that Obama created with the snapback provision.
Okay, Hans Blix. Please don’t send another sternly worded letter.
Oh, and take a step to your left, Hans.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:59 am to TBoy
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Sorry you are so uninformed.
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TBoy
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